Anything to get people to stop talking about those donations…
trmetroidmaniac on
>Reform has said it would introduce a new “Workplace Fairness Act”, saying it would “restore fairness, protect women, and rebuild public trust in the law by treating people as individuals rather than separating them into competing groups”. But they have not provided details on what protections this legislation would include.
Ms Braverman described protected characteristics as being “pernicious” and “divisive”.
Pregnancy rights charity Pregnant then Screwed warned that scrapping the legislation „would have catastrophic effects for everyone”, calling for “more support for mothers and parents”, not less.
>Earlier this year, *The Independent* revealed that [Reform UK](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/reform-uk)’s candidate in the Gorton and Denton [by-election](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/by-election), Matt Goodwin, previously called for women and young girls to be given a “biological reality” check, as he gave his views on how Britain should tackle its impending “fertility crisis”.
He had previously suggested that people who don’t have children [should be taxed extra as punishment](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-matt-goodwin-children-tax-gorton-denton-b2914817.html).
Meanwhile, Nigel Farage has said those who have “quite a few children” could be given tax breaks to help with the cost of living if his party came to power.
The party’s head of policy, Dr James Orr, has also advocated for pro-natalist public policy, saying that the “gap between desired fertility and actual fertility was getting wider and wider in most parts of the West”.
But Ms Mansell warned that weakening equality protections would mean “more women may feel forced to delay starting a family or decide they do not want to take that risk at all”.
This illustrates the incoherence of Reform’s platform. From the point of view of libertarian capitalism, there’s no reason that motherhood should be encouraged and protected; from the point of view of social conservatism, it’s essential. Marrying the two has always been a dodgy idea.
TheOnlyGaming3 on
Insanity from the party that wants to ban working from home and reduce women’s workplace rights by repealing the Equality Act
Hand maids tale. Will be reduced access to birth control next and pseudo science about vaccinations.
Iamthe0c3an2 on
So reform wants people to have more kids. But turn around to do this?
CyberpunkAesthetics on
At this point they’re just trying to alienate people
Hellstorm901 on
If the US is anything to go by the whole “Making it harder for women to have jobs and families” is part of the plan
Mean-Solution2150 on
Do you get a tax break if you’re infertile though? Or shall all women turn into handmaid’s right now?
birdinthebush74 on
But Reform says they are ‘ pronatalist’ I assume that means getting mothers out of the workforce, just like Farage’s US anti abortion mates .
rwinh on
It’s ironic really, Farage and Reform are so anti-women, workers and hand-outs, yet Farage is probably one of the most kept men going in British politics.
He was a kept man of Aaron Banks (a description given by Channel 4 News), and is a kept man of Christopher Harborne.
I bet a lot of Reform voters hate scroungers, but they worship and support one of the biggest grifters/scroungers going.
Reform voters and supporters are some of the most moronic people going, really. Sheep voting for a wolf who’s dressed in wolf clothing, claiming he understands the plight of the sheep, to incredibly stupid sheep. The sorts of people who need to be constantly reminded not to click suspicious links in emails or give their bank details to the person on the other end of the phone.
jajay119 on
I’m an ardent Reform opposer, but this article seems a bit of a non-starter based on speculation. Unless I’ve missed something Reform haven’t actually said they’ll remove maternity leave or those protections – it’s just charities surmising this because they want to scrap the Equality Act.
I mean, I completely trust they would do this based on their previous comments – especially those of Matt Goodwin but this article doesn’t actually seem to provide a specific quote of Reform saying this.
As much as I hate Reform, I also hate incendiary media regardless of what side they’re pushing it on. It’s not helpful.
Both-Mud-4362 on
If you are:
– a women (50.7% of the UK).
– are mixed race/black etc (18%)
– disabled (25%)
– unemployed due to child care needs (25% of mothers)
– unemployed/part time due to being a carer etc (2.6million people in the UK)
Reform will roll back your rights, your government support and the result will be increased deaths in these demographics.
Aggravating-Sort9474 on
They are adopting MAGA’s ‚Own the libs‘ strategy, their base doesn’t care if policy harms them as long as they get to see someone they disagree with visibly upset.
Kenye_Kratz on
None of their voters will give a single fuck about this, unfortunately
Important_Ruin on
And people want these clowns to run the country.
Jesus wept.
No workers rights, no women’s right, no equality rights, no human right, no renters rights.
mittfh on
The entire point of Protected Characteristics is to differentiate between discrimination against you as an individual and you because of your demographics, but „demographics“ is a fairly woolly term, so the law has to ennumerate exactly what’s covered.
In the absence of the Equality Act or equivalent legislation, what would stop an Employer deciding they don’t want to hire any women under 40, anybody with a disability that requires any adaptions whatsoever, anybody over the age of 60, anybody who subscribes to the „wrong“ religion etc?
WildWinterberry on
The “protect our women and children” brigade at it again
Great-Big-3101 on
We want to encourage women to have children, not make it even harder for them. But sure Deform, go ahead and make life hell for them.
CrashTestOrphan on
Reform policy is straight up „we hate and despise all women and will make their life worse guaranteed“ but let’s talk more about the Greens for some reason.
Do not take for granted what the equalities act has given us. Reform will happily revoke it without a plan and blame the chaos on the people. Don’t give them that chance.
coffeewalnut08 on
Not surprising, they were never a party invested in securing the best interests of women.
off_of_is_incorrect on
Yes, we (with brains) know this.
Unison put out a 30 page pdf on what Reform will do and how it will impact working, ordinary people.
Unfortunately, ‚we want change, immigrants out‘ is a surprisingly winning strategy for the English (and the Welsh it seems).
WheresMyFlamingo on
What negative impact does a pregnant woman pose you that you want to scrap the equality act?
momufana on
Isn’t this irony as they want more births because they are in hallucination that aliens are coming in boat, but at the same time they can’t provide any arrangements.
ComprehensiveFee8404 on
Upvoting to increase the reach of this post, not because I agree with the policy!
HormuzVengeance on
This is what my biggest argument has been against reform.
Generally speaking, I support a lot of ideologies aligned with the left, however I am also much wanting stricter immigration laws, as well as generally being against normalisation of islam becoming part of general societal life and influence which has absolutely been happening, and I hazard a lot of reform voters feel the same way.
But reform getting in – even ignoring all of their idiotic policies and corruption – would be devastating to women’s rights and women’s safety given Nigel and his cronies’ track record on parliament voting regarding those issues.
GeminiCheese on
These people just need to get in the bin. We fought too long and hard to have the worker protections and social safety nets these greedy bastards want to strip away.
Anyone who even remotely supports these people is a complete and utter tool.
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Anything to get people to stop talking about those donations…
>Reform has said it would introduce a new “Workplace Fairness Act”, saying it would “restore fairness, protect women, and rebuild public trust in the law by treating people as individuals rather than separating them into competing groups”. But they have not provided details on what protections this legislation would include.
Ms Braverman described protected characteristics as being “pernicious” and “divisive”.
Pregnancy rights charity Pregnant then Screwed warned that scrapping the legislation „would have catastrophic effects for everyone”, calling for “more support for mothers and parents”, not less.
>Earlier this year, *The Independent* revealed that [Reform UK](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/reform-uk)’s candidate in the Gorton and Denton [by-election](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/by-election), Matt Goodwin, previously called for women and young girls to be given a “biological reality” check, as he gave his views on how Britain should tackle its impending “fertility crisis”.
He had previously suggested that people who don’t have children [should be taxed extra as punishment](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-matt-goodwin-children-tax-gorton-denton-b2914817.html).
Meanwhile, Nigel Farage has said those who have “quite a few children” could be given tax breaks to help with the cost of living if his party came to power.
The party’s head of policy, Dr James Orr, has also advocated for pro-natalist public policy, saying that the “gap between desired fertility and actual fertility was getting wider and wider in most parts of the West”.
But Ms Mansell warned that weakening equality protections would mean “more women may feel forced to delay starting a family or decide they do not want to take that risk at all”.
This illustrates the incoherence of Reform’s platform. From the point of view of libertarian capitalism, there’s no reason that motherhood should be encouraged and protected; from the point of view of social conservatism, it’s essential. Marrying the two has always been a dodgy idea.
Insanity from the party that wants to ban working from home and reduce women’s workplace rights by repealing the Equality Act
One rule for them. [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55933388](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55933388)
Hand maids tale. Will be reduced access to birth control next and pseudo science about vaccinations.
So reform wants people to have more kids. But turn around to do this?
At this point they’re just trying to alienate people
If the US is anything to go by the whole “Making it harder for women to have jobs and families” is part of the plan
Do you get a tax break if you’re infertile though? Or shall all women turn into handmaid’s right now?
But Reform says they are ‘ pronatalist’ I assume that means getting mothers out of the workforce, just like Farage’s US anti abortion mates .
It’s ironic really, Farage and Reform are so anti-women, workers and hand-outs, yet Farage is probably one of the most kept men going in British politics.
He was a kept man of Aaron Banks (a description given by Channel 4 News), and is a kept man of Christopher Harborne.
I bet a lot of Reform voters hate scroungers, but they worship and support one of the biggest grifters/scroungers going.
Reform voters and supporters are some of the most moronic people going, really. Sheep voting for a wolf who’s dressed in wolf clothing, claiming he understands the plight of the sheep, to incredibly stupid sheep. The sorts of people who need to be constantly reminded not to click suspicious links in emails or give their bank details to the person on the other end of the phone.
I’m an ardent Reform opposer, but this article seems a bit of a non-starter based on speculation. Unless I’ve missed something Reform haven’t actually said they’ll remove maternity leave or those protections – it’s just charities surmising this because they want to scrap the Equality Act.
I mean, I completely trust they would do this based on their previous comments – especially those of Matt Goodwin but this article doesn’t actually seem to provide a specific quote of Reform saying this.
As much as I hate Reform, I also hate incendiary media regardless of what side they’re pushing it on. It’s not helpful.
If you are:
– a women (50.7% of the UK).
– are mixed race/black etc (18%)
– disabled (25%)
– unemployed due to child care needs (25% of mothers)
– unemployed/part time due to being a carer etc (2.6million people in the UK)
Reform will roll back your rights, your government support and the result will be increased deaths in these demographics.
They are adopting MAGA’s ‚Own the libs‘ strategy, their base doesn’t care if policy harms them as long as they get to see someone they disagree with visibly upset.
None of their voters will give a single fuck about this, unfortunately
And people want these clowns to run the country.
Jesus wept.
No workers rights, no women’s right, no equality rights, no human right, no renters rights.
The entire point of Protected Characteristics is to differentiate between discrimination against you as an individual and you because of your demographics, but „demographics“ is a fairly woolly term, so the law has to ennumerate exactly what’s covered.
In the absence of the Equality Act or equivalent legislation, what would stop an Employer deciding they don’t want to hire any women under 40, anybody with a disability that requires any adaptions whatsoever, anybody over the age of 60, anybody who subscribes to the „wrong“ religion etc?
The “protect our women and children” brigade at it again
We want to encourage women to have children, not make it even harder for them. But sure Deform, go ahead and make life hell for them.
Reform policy is straight up „we hate and despise all women and will make their life worse guaranteed“ but let’s talk more about the Greens for some reason.
Farage tweet from 2010
The European Parliament, in their foolishness, have voted for increased maternity pay. I’m off for a drink. [#UKIP](https://x.com/hashtag/UKIP?src=hashtag_click)
Do not take for granted what the equalities act has given us. Reform will happily revoke it without a plan and blame the chaos on the people. Don’t give them that chance.
Not surprising, they were never a party invested in securing the best interests of women.
Yes, we (with brains) know this.
Unison put out a 30 page pdf on what Reform will do and how it will impact working, ordinary people.
Unfortunately, ‚we want change, immigrants out‘ is a surprisingly winning strategy for the English (and the Welsh it seems).
What negative impact does a pregnant woman pose you that you want to scrap the equality act?
Isn’t this irony as they want more births because they are in hallucination that aliens are coming in boat, but at the same time they can’t provide any arrangements.
Upvoting to increase the reach of this post, not because I agree with the policy!
This is what my biggest argument has been against reform.
Generally speaking, I support a lot of ideologies aligned with the left, however I am also much wanting stricter immigration laws, as well as generally being against normalisation of islam becoming part of general societal life and influence which has absolutely been happening, and I hazard a lot of reform voters feel the same way.
But reform getting in – even ignoring all of their idiotic policies and corruption – would be devastating to women’s rights and women’s safety given Nigel and his cronies’ track record on parliament voting regarding those issues.
These people just need to get in the bin. We fought too long and hard to have the worker protections and social safety nets these greedy bastards want to strip away.
Anyone who even remotely supports these people is a complete and utter tool.