Ich schaute mir ein Bild von Guangzhou in China an und dachte mir: "Mann, das ist die Zukunft, an die ich immer gedacht habe." Es gibt keine fliegenden Autos, aber es gibt sicherlich futuristisch aussehende Städte, KI und Technologien, an die man vor 50 Jahren noch nie gedacht hätte. Da habe ich mich gefragt, ob dies vielleicht der Höhepunkt der menschlichen Existenz ist und dass es von hier aus nur noch bergab geht. Ich meine, anscheinend In den entwickelten Ländern werden die Menschen immer dümmerDaher kann ich mir nur vorstellen, dass es zumindest in den entwickelten Ländern immer schlimmer wird.
Do you believe we are already at the height/peak of human innovation and society or close to it? And if so, do you believe it will only be downhill from here or stabilize?
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Not at all
It’ll be bumpy but I’m optimistic as a young person
If we don’t destroy the planet and physics says it’s possible, we as a species will do some amazing things and eventually be a level 3+ society.
We have been downtrending since around when companies replaced “contact us” with “Hey there! i am *randomname*, a chat bot for *company* how can I help you today?”
the peak of human existence is a fallacy I think, there are always good and bad to all times. however, I think western society has been in broad decline since at least the seventies if not before. so depending on how you view the future, we are either nowhere near the peak, or have already experienced it and won’t again
You can compare musics if you want pertinent exemple.
Classical and urban music.
Edit: It’s weird that the two downvoting dummies ( and many more I hope ) don’t explain how they are an evolution of mankind xD
I often wonder if the next step really includes humans. Seems like we’re going to become a facsimile of humans.
No where close.
We are spending a lot of resources doing useless things like wars. In a world where humanity as a whole decide to do something with a single purpose, we can do so much more.
Some day humans will be starting colonization programs for other planets and look back at how backwards we are.
My most immediate fear for the future is that further development of AI will lead to a gradual dumbing down of people. Where we use it today as a means to answer questions or to make heads/tails of massive data sets, a continued reliance on it could shift perspectives to a point we are no longer asking it questions, but rather mindlessly following preempted suggestions. So in some ways, we may be near the peak of human greatness for actual human invention and creation, and what’s left is a Wall-E style Buy N Large future. And all of this could fly under the radar as things visibly remain the same or maybe even superficially improve while we’re all distracted by the blinking lights. I don’t doubt human advancement, but do wonder who will be steering the ship in the future.
I believe we are not near the end of innovation. Think of the potential change that will be possible with fintech + crypto + prediction markets + parametric hedging. These will likely mean big changes in daily life for everyone in the next 5 years.
its been downhill for a while now. we are currently on a fast track to a wide selection of extinction level crises. ai isnt going to fix everything.
What we’re experiencing right now is a dip as our society has yet to find a way to deal with the issues caused by an overly connected/online world empowered by social media.
It’s used as a weapon against us by bad faith actors the system is not meant to handle.
The amount of demagoges and corrupted damaging technological advancement is outrageus.
I don’t think people are necessarily getting dumber, but the dumb are being weaponized and become more visible as a result.
No we have not yet reached the heights of innovation but are very close to that. It will likely be another 40-50 years of progress when most civilized societies will be annihilated due to nuclear wars. Thank goodness for some islands like North Sentinel where human species can continue to evolve. It may take another four or five thousand years before we begin our next innovation cycle thanks to communities shielded from human activities.
I think invocation and technology will continue progress to levels we can’t begin to imagine, but I fear that only the 1% will benefit, and the 99% will live in total poverty.
I don’t think we’ve hit the peak of human innovation, but I do believe we’re at or rapidly approaching a Great Filter event that will wipe is out if we don’t get our shit together as a species and a society in short order.
If you asked me it feels like we are in a new dark age.
Very little advancements in tech, and the advancements we’ve gotten so far aint exactly a leap/bound like it was in the late 1900’s/early 2000’s.
And Extreme wealth inequality to the point where people are working to just survive, leaving little time for independents to research on their own, or even take a risk at sinking money into such projects.
What ever new tech that does come to market isnt even for the masses, so most people will never experience it, or even know it exists.
The smart phone IMO was really the last future tech for the masses that everyone benefited from.
Just look back, how many years went by where we have advanced the most, 100 years? Thats nothing. We have a lot of science and stuff to discover in the future.
No. As long as we don’t destroy ourselves, I feel like humanity is destined to colonize, at least, the solar system. The Artemis 2 mission felt like a major turning point: after 50 years of stalling in LEO, we’re finally getting back out there! I think we’ll see the first early steps within my lifetime.
And we already have the technology needed to send probes to other solar systems. Once something like Breakthrough Starshot or a solar gravitational lens is built, our knowledge about other stars and exoplanets will grow exponentially. If these tools ever find a habitable world, then humans are inevitably *going* to want to go there.
Also, I feel like nuclear fusion is only a matter of time. I’ve given up trying to even guess at how much time, but it still feels like something that will inevitably happen *eventually*. With practically unlimited energy from solar and fusion power, and ever-improving automation tools, a post-scarcity society seems basically inevitable. (The transition from our current hyper-capitalist society to that eventual post-scarcity one is shaping up to be a doozy, though!)
I think some kind of recursively self-improving AI/algorithm/whatever-you-want-to-call-it is now a near-term possibility. This could lead to an „Intelligence Revolution,“ a transformative event like we haven’t seen since the Industrial Revolution!
As for people „getting dumber,“ I think that’s probably a transitional phase as we adapt to the new reality of things like near-constant screen time and being inundated with social media. But these things are still basically brand new, and humanity is nothing if not adaptable. We’re already starting to see large-scale backlash against social media. In the future, I think social media will be viewed kind of like smoking, where its not banned outright, but it is subjected to strong safety regulations and societal pressures keeping it from ever getting out of hand again.
We created something smarter than most people. I’ll say it’s all downhill for us from here
If Steven Hawkings thought we were cooked in the next 100 years, I’m willing to wager he is correct.
No, not even close.
I think by 2100 humanity and civilization will be as different from today as we are from 1900.
We don’t even know a lot that was achieved in past renaissance periods and in small, unknown cultures. Human history hardly dates back a blip in a time. To think we’ve peaked is comically naive. We are still cavemen living in boxes and figuring out how social a species we truly are.
I feel like we’re really just getting started in our scientific understanding of the universe. We’ve barely figured out how to observe a lot of phenomena. In the bigger picture of scientific advancement we’re still in the ABC’s stage of things.
If things keep going downhill, I’m evolving into a sea mammal. Dry is a lie! Down with Big Land!
We are no where near the height on innovation. Not even close. Not even at 1% of 1% of the potential of human innovation.
We could have trains that run on sunlight. We could have vehicles that charge through electric roads. We could have building facades that double as native Flora and fauna habitat. We could have electricity that charges anything in a room, no wires. And that’s just what i know about. I’m nobody.
But we live in a world barely more advanced than 50 years ago. Innovation will not be choked out forever. We’ll reach toward the limits of knowledge one way or another.
The 90s to early 2000s may have been the peak.
>American IQ scores peaked around the mid-1990s. Following decades of gains known as the Flynn effect, a „reverse Flynn effect“ has been observed, with studies showing declines in American IQ scores between 2006 and 2018 in areas like logic, vocabulary, and problem-solving.
As someone that lived then I have to say it did seem better in every way, and I don’t think that’s just nostalgia talking. 54% of American adults now **read below sixth grade level.** How could the society we build from that ignorance not be worse?