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    1. Trang0ul on

      The simplified tree misses many less-spoken languages. How to open the complete one?

    2. dbg96 on

      does this mean portuguese and french are the latest languages to have appeared?

      how does each node work?

    3. -Vikthor- on

      Misses better part of the south-slavic languages, misses both Sorbians and polish local languages.

    8. Ontfnuiker on

      Not European, rather Proto Indo-European origin languages only. None of the Uralic languages relation shown? Finish, Estonian, Hungarian.

    9. perdigaoperdeuapena on

      Serious question: why does Ladin is so away from Portuguese?

      As a Portuguese native, I always thought that Ladin was what Jews in ancient Portugal talked and that it was quite similar to our native language.

      So I was expecting that Ladin would be closer to the Portuguese branch (or even the Spanish branch)

    10. Yongtre100 on

      The problem with English is while it’s historically Germanic and very simialer to the other Germanic languages.. only 26 percent of its words are of Germanic origin. Meanwhile 29 percent is French and 29 percent is Latin. So it’s like… kinda heavily influenced by the romantic languages, more so than I could possibly imagine Frisian, Dutch, and German being.

    11. Loki-L on

      This is treating languages as if they evolved in complete isolation once they diverge from each other and also as if there were monolithic things.

      In real life each language should be a huge bundle of dialects and there should be constant interactions between languages.

      For example modern English is the result of everyone who invaded the British isle over the centuries and millennia adding their own ingredients, stewing the resulting mix for a while until it boiled over and the English started to invade people around the world and got infected with their vocabulary and brought it back home with them.

      Real life is far messier than this diagram.

    12. Runarhalldor on

      Feel like this misses out a lot on the influence of Old Norse on the english language

    13. mydriase on

      This is great but I have many questions. Why is PIE purple, and the colour purple represents celtic languages? Is there a connection between the two? I’m asking since Greek (yellow) is the closest to PIE on your graph. Also, what does each node show? Like why so many nodes for French?

      I think it’d be great to show family names too

      Lastly I dont get why Albanian is green but somehow connected with the pink family…

    14. dnebdal on

      I don’t know enough to have a strong opinion, but how solidly supported is the idea that Germanic, Italic and Celtic split separately from a common ancestor compared to Italo-celtic splitting off together and then separating a bit later?

    16. EnvironmentalShift25 on

      Should show the Italic branch closer to the Celtic branch as they are supposedly the closest related.

    19. Xtrepiphany on

      Of course Basque (Euskara) was left out.

      Edit: Nebermind, I didn’t read the fine print. Ya Basque doesn’t fit in this chart, it is older and doesn’t share the same roots.

    20. g_spaitz on

      This graph makes it seems as if Italian descends from Friulian. Lol

      Also, „European“ languages include non proto-indo-european, which are not in here for some not disclosed reason.

    21. MadRoboticist on

      It’s crazy with as influential as the ancient greeks were that there aren’t any greek branches. Though I suppose modern greek should probably be a few more nodes down from ancient greek.

    22. Cautious_Drawer_7771 on

      This seem disingenuous having English solely on the blue tree, as half of the language comes from the green tree.

    24. talanall on

      This is inaccurate in multiple ways. For one thing, this chart depicts only Indo-European languages, but in fact there are several languages that are commonly spoken in Europe that are not Indo-European in origin, and there are numerous Indo-European languages that are not European.

      For another, it depicts linguistic origin in a fashion that is simplified to the point of total inaccuracy. This topic is messy. The chart not only does not convey its messiness; it actively and dishonestly hides it.

    25. wtlenny on

      Ukrainian language did not develop from russian. Kyiv city was „the mother of the slav cities“, and UA peoples can read old cyrillic scripts from that era while most of russians can not. Makes the whole diagram questinable.

    26. Fywq on

      Funny how Norwegian looks to be more remote from Danish than Icelandic. Norwegian (Bokmål, not Nynorsk) is incredibly similar to Danish in written language, and the two are much closer than either is to Swedish (at least from a Danish perspective). I am pretty sure Swedes and Norwegians also understand each other better than they understand Danes.

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