children shouldn’t be doing anything related to politics regardless of what it is. let alone something as polarizing as this.
Deep-Ad4183 on
No! This takes place in a village where it is a tradition for all the residents to participate in a torch relay.
RidersSyndicate on
Honouring heroes that gave their lives so the country could be liberated? And only do it one day of the year? Why not? I actually think it teaches them to love their country, be proud of their nation and not to be materialistic and egocentric AHs when they grow up. So yeah I support it, not only for the historical and national importance, but also as a valuable life lesson for the kids.
LetterheadNarrow5550 on
Sorry not sorry! εαν δεν ειστε Κυπραιοι εν δικαιουστε να εκφερετε γνωμη!
CypriotGreek on
I mean, I don’t see a problem with it. The EOKA struggle had involvement and support from a lot of young people at the time, it wasn’t just adults. I’ve heard the same kind of stories from my own family, kids making flags, showing them off at school, being part of that atmosphere.
Calling this “polarizing” feels like a stretch. It’s not like they’re out there promoting fascism or anything extreme, they’re just commemorating a part of their history and identity.
At the end of the day, it’s about remembrance and cultural expression, not what the Turks are trying to frame it as.
Constantinos1990 on
Three days ago, my district hold a similar ceremony for the liberation day.
In my district we have a lot of people from other nationalities, syrian, iran, russian, latvian, ukraine, etc.
What really made me proud of my district was that people who barely knew what we were celebrating from other countries of origin brang their children to participate, held greek and cypriot flags and marched with us.
Last year, I think it was our Christmas celebrations, more than half of the celebration, the poems, the songs, the dances were held by children of different backgrounds and nationalities in different languages etc.
I believe these kind of gatherings bring people together and are great for the local communities.
Seeing this as an outsider and in pictures you might think that this is a nationalistic event. When context is put in, the reality is different.
We didn’t celebrate against someone. We celebrated freedom, sacrifice for the greater good and as a reminder that we are a small country but when we hold strong together we can achieve great things.
damned4alltime on
Unfortunately
IntroductionAlone837 on
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Quirky-Sleep-6358 on
If the question is whether or not they need to be informed about politics then yes I support. Kids need to understand what’s going on around the world but at the same time be protected from further trauma. A child needs to develop its ciritcal thinking while they are young so they don’t end up like people who grew up in an environment that surpresses their theories and ideologies and end up hateful and lack understanding of different cultures, religions, genders, sexualities, races etc.
AggravatingWarning28 on
Did not EOKA also assist the Greek fascist junta in illegally invading the Republic of Cyprus, trying to murder the President of Cyprus, desecrating the democratic amd constitutional integrity of Cyprus, and the brutal murder of civilians? Which led to the Turkish invasion you all complain about? It’s time to stop looking backwards Cyprus and start looking forwards.
FamouStranger91 on
What’s happening?
dacassar on
I am not Cypriot and you can ignore my opinion, but I support it. Children must learn the history of their people and the land, they should be proud of who they are. If people don’t teach children such things, history may repeat itself, because new generations couldn’t see historical parallels.
kostaspap90 on
Not sure, tbh.
On the one hand, I believe that kids need to learn history and gain a basic understanding of politics. There is nothing wrong with learning about the heroes of national history, for example.
On the other hand, 90% of such activities tend to lose their objectivity, and kids just grow into the political views of their parents. It becomes more about the feeling of belonging to X group rather than “I believe in the Y idea,” resulting in the opposite effect. Instead of developing critical thinking, they form strong foundational beliefs that other people plant in them before they’re ready to filter and challenge them.
When I was at school, I remember a few classmates claiming that they were left or right without even understanding what those terms meant.
Bran37 on
If the question is about the march with the fire sticks(whatever they are called in english – λαμπαδοφορία) I would say I am okay with it. It usually happens the night before the parades (28th of October, 25th of March, 1st of April, 1st of May) and each party group + the scouts do this.
The question is more what are kids doing in party parades and whether that should be a thing. And again I am not fully against, but I do see the danger of children indoctrination which perhaps should change my mind on this.
Fabulous-Yellow8331 on
Short answer: yes. Long answer: absolutely, of course. We take pride in honoring our heroes.
SORRYCAPSLOCKBROKENN on
Absolutely not, respectfully from a Turkish Cypriot. Children without critical thinking skills should not be used as vessels for nationalist propaganda.
fatnote on
Greek flags no
BrodoSaggins on
In the north there are the same amount of Turkish flags as there are Greek flags in the south. If this was happening in the north it might even make news stories in GC news. I feel both sides of nationalism do not benefit us in any way. They unfortunately do not celebrate the „ethnos“ (whatever that means) but instead further divide us into us and them while also contributing to our Little Brother Syndrome. To answer your question directly, these children probably have very little idea of what EOKA actually did and what it stood for, if they got the same education as me. So yes this is brainwashing.
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children shouldn’t be doing anything related to politics regardless of what it is. let alone something as polarizing as this.
No! This takes place in a village where it is a tradition for all the residents to participate in a torch relay.
Honouring heroes that gave their lives so the country could be liberated? And only do it one day of the year? Why not? I actually think it teaches them to love their country, be proud of their nation and not to be materialistic and egocentric AHs when they grow up. So yeah I support it, not only for the historical and national importance, but also as a valuable life lesson for the kids.
Sorry not sorry! εαν δεν ειστε Κυπραιοι εν δικαιουστε να εκφερετε γνωμη!
I mean, I don’t see a problem with it. The EOKA struggle had involvement and support from a lot of young people at the time, it wasn’t just adults. I’ve heard the same kind of stories from my own family, kids making flags, showing them off at school, being part of that atmosphere.
Calling this “polarizing” feels like a stretch. It’s not like they’re out there promoting fascism or anything extreme, they’re just commemorating a part of their history and identity.
At the end of the day, it’s about remembrance and cultural expression, not what the Turks are trying to frame it as.
Three days ago, my district hold a similar ceremony for the liberation day.
In my district we have a lot of people from other nationalities, syrian, iran, russian, latvian, ukraine, etc.
What really made me proud of my district was that people who barely knew what we were celebrating from other countries of origin brang their children to participate, held greek and cypriot flags and marched with us.
Last year, I think it was our Christmas celebrations, more than half of the celebration, the poems, the songs, the dances were held by children of different backgrounds and nationalities in different languages etc.
I believe these kind of gatherings bring people together and are great for the local communities.
Seeing this as an outsider and in pictures you might think that this is a nationalistic event. When context is put in, the reality is different.
We didn’t celebrate against someone. We celebrated freedom, sacrifice for the greater good and as a reminder that we are a small country but when we hold strong together we can achieve great things.
Unfortunately
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If the question is whether or not they need to be informed about politics then yes I support. Kids need to understand what’s going on around the world but at the same time be protected from further trauma. A child needs to develop its ciritcal thinking while they are young so they don’t end up like people who grew up in an environment that surpresses their theories and ideologies and end up hateful and lack understanding of different cultures, religions, genders, sexualities, races etc.
Did not EOKA also assist the Greek fascist junta in illegally invading the Republic of Cyprus, trying to murder the President of Cyprus, desecrating the democratic amd constitutional integrity of Cyprus, and the brutal murder of civilians? Which led to the Turkish invasion you all complain about? It’s time to stop looking backwards Cyprus and start looking forwards.
What’s happening?
I am not Cypriot and you can ignore my opinion, but I support it. Children must learn the history of their people and the land, they should be proud of who they are. If people don’t teach children such things, history may repeat itself, because new generations couldn’t see historical parallels.
Not sure, tbh.
On the one hand, I believe that kids need to learn history and gain a basic understanding of politics. There is nothing wrong with learning about the heroes of national history, for example.
On the other hand, 90% of such activities tend to lose their objectivity, and kids just grow into the political views of their parents. It becomes more about the feeling of belonging to X group rather than “I believe in the Y idea,” resulting in the opposite effect. Instead of developing critical thinking, they form strong foundational beliefs that other people plant in them before they’re ready to filter and challenge them.
When I was at school, I remember a few classmates claiming that they were left or right without even understanding what those terms meant.
If the question is about the march with the fire sticks(whatever they are called in english – λαμπαδοφορία) I would say I am okay with it. It usually happens the night before the parades (28th of October, 25th of March, 1st of April, 1st of May) and each party group + the scouts do this.
The question is more what are kids doing in party parades and whether that should be a thing. And again I am not fully against, but I do see the danger of children indoctrination which perhaps should change my mind on this.
Short answer: yes. Long answer: absolutely, of course. We take pride in honoring our heroes.
Absolutely not, respectfully from a Turkish Cypriot. Children without critical thinking skills should not be used as vessels for nationalist propaganda.
Greek flags no
In the north there are the same amount of Turkish flags as there are Greek flags in the south. If this was happening in the north it might even make news stories in GC news. I feel both sides of nationalism do not benefit us in any way. They unfortunately do not celebrate the „ethnos“ (whatever that means) but instead further divide us into us and them while also contributing to our Little Brother Syndrome. To answer your question directly, these children probably have very little idea of what EOKA actually did and what it stood for, if they got the same education as me. So yes this is brainwashing.