Also promote them and make them accessible as opposed to just shadow dropping them in select theaters
OnionPastor on
I think both sides are correct in this, if you care about movies then you should see them in theater, and if you care about movies and are making them you should make them worth watching.
We’re dealing with art, there’s a relationship occurring between the recipients and the creators and both have to be participating for it to work in a market environment.
All that being said, it is way too expensive to see a movie today and the experience itself is constantly degrading. That drives me away from the theater more than movie quality by a significant margin. And that’s on the theaters themselves.
Recent_Mirror on
They need to drop prices as time passes.
First week, full price. The people who really want to see the movie, will pay. It’s like early tech adopters.
Following weeks, the price starts to drop. Let the theaters keep most of the ticket profit at this point.
Cheaper tickets, more money to spend on candy and popcorn.
I’ll spend full price to see Hail Mary the first weekend.
But, I’m not paying 20 bucks to see April Fool’s day.
But I may pay 10. And I will probably get popcorn.
One of the theaters by me has 1/2 price Wed afternoon movies. The place gets packed.
CoolBakedBean on
with my medication i have to pee every hour or so. it’s just not worth it anymore for me to go to the theaters when i can watch it at home on my OLED and surround sound and be able to pause it a couple times so i can go pee
Hongxiquan on
Maybe someone should also ask why average people have less and less disposable income these days?
Zjimmy123 on
I think price a big reason as well.
. I wanted to see Project Hail Mary with my brothers and 3 tickets came it to like $70 that’s not even including tax plus whatever snacks or drinks they would want.
skynetwins90 on
I don’t mind paying amc prices.my local mall charges $6.75 for early shows. I always work on both Fridays which can make it hard to see movies opening day.
WaterlooMall on
This is a coded way of saying he wants to make THE NICE GUYS 2
CrissBliss on
Studios want a sure thing nowadays. It’s why we’re getting tons of reboots, sequels and prequels vs original or adapted films. Sinners was another example that people will pay to go to the movies if the product is good, as they always have.
thingaumbuku on
Reality is most movies don’t need to be seen in theaters. Movies that take advantage of the big screen are must-sees, but most movies there’s not much difference between seeing it in theaters vs watching it at home, so the cuts in cost are the swing.
officer897177 on
It’s not just about making good movies, the entire industry has changed. There used to be consistently high-quality movies released that were in theaters for months before eventually making their way to purchase a rental.
There was also significantly less content available overall, so people were more likely to engage with the theater only options. The reality is that theaters at this point are more expensive, less convenient, and less comfortable than a home viewing experience, and there’s plenty of media to consume while these major tentpole releases make their way on a now expedited timeframe to rental or streaming services.
LocoStrange on
it’s too expensive to go out eat. $20 for a seat, plus drinks were $7-10 dollars. The food is average at best… if I want popcorn, another $15-20. But all the normal food were $12-15. In the end, date night on the cheap side is almost $100.
However, at home… I have a 85inch tv, surround sound, my recliner seats that massage and heat function. I can dress comfortable and add a cosy blanket, drinks are “free”, make my own movie theater popcorn and/or eat whatever I want. Plus my wife can pee by pausing a movie. I can wait a few months to rent the movie for $6-12.
dragonfliesloveme on
Ok I’m starting to think he might be the coolest guy ever, at least in Hollywood
Pinksamuraiiiii on
Maybe, if going to the movies wasn’t so expensive, more people would go. Also, the food prices at the movie theater sucks. $10 for a hotdog $14 for bucket of popcorn. Some places are crazy. And $16-$20 for a ticket is a big F.U. (Especially if the movie ends up sucking). Might as well just wait for it to end up on one of the streaming services.
mightyfishfingers on
He’s right but cinemas also need to change. We have a great one near us that has cost sofas with side tables and sells cups of tea as well as choc and popcorn. It’s the only one I’ll go to and only then if the film seems worth it because it’s still at £50-60 night for me to go.
drunkpunk138 on
It’s also up to the theaters to make the experience worth the price of admission. The only time I enjoy the theater these days is when I can take a weekday off and see the first showing. Otherwise there are too many people with zero etiquette making me wish I had just waited for it to hit streaming so I’m not so massively distracted.
Express_Carrot_5479 on
he’s absolutely right. special effects are not a suitable substitute for a special story.
Icy-Whale-2253 on
Start by not charging $40 for concessions. Start by starting the movie on time instead of having 45 minutes of commercials *before* the previews. Hell… make tickets $11 again. Just some ideas though, no one has to listen to me.
Appdownyourthroat on
Maybe we don’t want to spend $100+ for 3 people to sot in a chair for 2 hours and some popcorn when I can just have them over and watch for free instead, and take breaks, better and cheaper snacks
SgtBushMonkey69 on
I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle, he does have a point about making great stuff but at the same time cinemas have become so ridiculously expensive it’s just not feasible for a lot of people. I’m lucky that I have a cinema near me where I can see a new film for about 6 pounds but there’s another cinema, a big odeon about half an hour away that charges 20 pounds for the same seats. The experience is exactly the same if not a little nicer at the cheaper place (big up Omniplex) yet the price discrepancy is almost x4.
Applekid1259 on
The shape of theaters suck as well. I was doing that stars A list thing where you can see a couple movies a week with it. Even then it wasn’t worth it because they never keep up with maintenance on the building or equipment. Not to mention having to deal with all the main characters that go see movies.
I stopped going completely after that. Now me and my son buy a big thing of corn and pop our own fresh popcorn and enjoy movies on our own comfortable couch. I don’t really see that changing anytime remotely soon either.
toomuchtv987 on
If theaters would enforce proper behavior, that would be a start. Actually throw people out when they are a disturbance.
But also he’s not wrong.
2401PenitentTangentx on
My local theater has changed owners 3 times in the past 6ish years. Showbiz to evo to hooky. They tried adding a bowling alley bar and arcade. Everything is just over priced. The staff sucks and the place is just dirty.
Why would I pay 100+$ to take my family out and not enjoy ourselves?
Waste-Gene-7793 on
This is a controversial opinion, but for most movies, a theatre doesn’t add anything to the viewing experience compared to watching at home. Especially if you’re going to a chain rather than an arts events.
Theatres are not great social activities (you sit in the dark in silence), your food and comfort options are worse than at home, they’re likely dirtier than your home, they’re much more expensive than streaming.
If you’re watching something like Dune where sound and cinematography are core to the experience that’s one thing but when was the last time you needed to see a comedy or period drama on the big screen with surround sound?
Harlllley on
Ryan is right but there’s way more than just that.
Almost everything about the theatre experience needs to change.
tfresca on
Why is cost of tickets never a part of these conversations?
nogwart on
At least for me, it’s not the expense or even the quality, but the lack of common theater etiquette and rudeness that keeps me away. I’d gladly start going back to see movies in theaters if they would initiate and enforce very simple, common sense rules like „be quiet“ and „phones off“.
Frognaros on
it wasn’t gamer’s jobs to save the arcades
and the arcades have mostly died out, limited to a few places for the die hard fans. And that’s okay. People play enough at home and on their phones now.
BeefInGR on
The last time I went to the theater was for the live action Christopher Robin. It was a unique take on Winnie-the-Pooh. Having a seven year old daughter was a bonus, not the reason.
The next time I plan on going to see a movie in the theater is the adult showing of the Bluey movie. And you know there will be both a Bluey movie and an after 7 pm showing for the adults. Because everybody likes Bluey.
In that span of time, the only movie that was released that tempted me to think about the theater was Civil War. And I think if there was more backstory into why we were having a Civil War, I’d have gone. Instead I watched it at home.
Even Maverick didn’t tickle my fancy enough to spend the cash. And I’m a sucker for a Tom Cruise action movie.
I don’t care about the prices if you make a damn good movie. But tell me a story I haven’t heard in the last 40 years.
be777 on
It doesn’t need to feel like spending vacation money going to a weekly event.
Horror_Response_1991 on
Ok but The Rock is going to blame everyone when Moana fails
Polygnom on
Make the movie worth seeing, and make it priced fairly.
And make the cinema have clean seats. last time I went, it had broken, filthy seats. no thanks. if the movie comes out in a couple of weeks for Tv anyways, my 1€ microwave popcorn and fridge coke and clean sofa beat your overpriced coke, popcorn and filthy seats by a mile.
Dudemanbrah84 on
Yeah we need more movies like Melania /s
Agitated_Tip_8713 on
And I’ll still be watching them at home
Melianos12 on
The theatre experience just isn’t worth it.
It’s pricier, requires time commitment and is less comfortable than my couch. But the worst part is people don’t know how to behave in theaters anymore. The talking and phones make it unbearable.
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Also promote them and make them accessible as opposed to just shadow dropping them in select theaters
I think both sides are correct in this, if you care about movies then you should see them in theater, and if you care about movies and are making them you should make them worth watching.
We’re dealing with art, there’s a relationship occurring between the recipients and the creators and both have to be participating for it to work in a market environment.
All that being said, it is way too expensive to see a movie today and the experience itself is constantly degrading. That drives me away from the theater more than movie quality by a significant margin. And that’s on the theaters themselves.
They need to drop prices as time passes.
First week, full price. The people who really want to see the movie, will pay. It’s like early tech adopters.
Following weeks, the price starts to drop. Let the theaters keep most of the ticket profit at this point.
Cheaper tickets, more money to spend on candy and popcorn.
I’ll spend full price to see Hail Mary the first weekend.
But, I’m not paying 20 bucks to see April Fool’s day.
But I may pay 10. And I will probably get popcorn.
One of the theaters by me has 1/2 price Wed afternoon movies. The place gets packed.
with my medication i have to pee every hour or so. it’s just not worth it anymore for me to go to the theaters when i can watch it at home on my OLED and surround sound and be able to pause it a couple times so i can go pee
Maybe someone should also ask why average people have less and less disposable income these days?
I think price a big reason as well.
. I wanted to see Project Hail Mary with my brothers and 3 tickets came it to like $70 that’s not even including tax plus whatever snacks or drinks they would want.
I don’t mind paying amc prices.my local mall charges $6.75 for early shows. I always work on both Fridays which can make it hard to see movies opening day.
This is a coded way of saying he wants to make THE NICE GUYS 2
Studios want a sure thing nowadays. It’s why we’re getting tons of reboots, sequels and prequels vs original or adapted films. Sinners was another example that people will pay to go to the movies if the product is good, as they always have.
Reality is most movies don’t need to be seen in theaters. Movies that take advantage of the big screen are must-sees, but most movies there’s not much difference between seeing it in theaters vs watching it at home, so the cuts in cost are the swing.
It’s not just about making good movies, the entire industry has changed. There used to be consistently high-quality movies released that were in theaters for months before eventually making their way to purchase a rental.
There was also significantly less content available overall, so people were more likely to engage with the theater only options. The reality is that theaters at this point are more expensive, less convenient, and less comfortable than a home viewing experience, and there’s plenty of media to consume while these major tentpole releases make their way on a now expedited timeframe to rental or streaming services.
it’s too expensive to go out eat. $20 for a seat, plus drinks were $7-10 dollars. The food is average at best… if I want popcorn, another $15-20. But all the normal food were $12-15. In the end, date night on the cheap side is almost $100.
However, at home… I have a 85inch tv, surround sound, my recliner seats that massage and heat function. I can dress comfortable and add a cosy blanket, drinks are “free”, make my own movie theater popcorn and/or eat whatever I want. Plus my wife can pee by pausing a movie. I can wait a few months to rent the movie for $6-12.
Ok I’m starting to think he might be the coolest guy ever, at least in Hollywood
Maybe, if going to the movies wasn’t so expensive, more people would go. Also, the food prices at the movie theater sucks. $10 for a hotdog $14 for bucket of popcorn. Some places are crazy. And $16-$20 for a ticket is a big F.U. (Especially if the movie ends up sucking). Might as well just wait for it to end up on one of the streaming services.
He’s right but cinemas also need to change. We have a great one near us that has cost sofas with side tables and sells cups of tea as well as choc and popcorn. It’s the only one I’ll go to and only then if the film seems worth it because it’s still at £50-60 night for me to go.
It’s also up to the theaters to make the experience worth the price of admission. The only time I enjoy the theater these days is when I can take a weekday off and see the first showing. Otherwise there are too many people with zero etiquette making me wish I had just waited for it to hit streaming so I’m not so massively distracted.
he’s absolutely right. special effects are not a suitable substitute for a special story.
Start by not charging $40 for concessions. Start by starting the movie on time instead of having 45 minutes of commercials *before* the previews. Hell… make tickets $11 again. Just some ideas though, no one has to listen to me.
Maybe we don’t want to spend $100+ for 3 people to sot in a chair for 2 hours and some popcorn when I can just have them over and watch for free instead, and take breaks, better and cheaper snacks
I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle, he does have a point about making great stuff but at the same time cinemas have become so ridiculously expensive it’s just not feasible for a lot of people. I’m lucky that I have a cinema near me where I can see a new film for about 6 pounds but there’s another cinema, a big odeon about half an hour away that charges 20 pounds for the same seats. The experience is exactly the same if not a little nicer at the cheaper place (big up Omniplex) yet the price discrepancy is almost x4.
The shape of theaters suck as well. I was doing that stars A list thing where you can see a couple movies a week with it. Even then it wasn’t worth it because they never keep up with maintenance on the building or equipment. Not to mention having to deal with all the main characters that go see movies.
I stopped going completely after that. Now me and my son buy a big thing of corn and pop our own fresh popcorn and enjoy movies on our own comfortable couch. I don’t really see that changing anytime remotely soon either.
If theaters would enforce proper behavior, that would be a start. Actually throw people out when they are a disturbance.
But also he’s not wrong.
My local theater has changed owners 3 times in the past 6ish years. Showbiz to evo to hooky. They tried adding a bowling alley bar and arcade. Everything is just over priced. The staff sucks and the place is just dirty.
Why would I pay 100+$ to take my family out and not enjoy ourselves?
This is a controversial opinion, but for most movies, a theatre doesn’t add anything to the viewing experience compared to watching at home. Especially if you’re going to a chain rather than an arts events.
Theatres are not great social activities (you sit in the dark in silence), your food and comfort options are worse than at home, they’re likely dirtier than your home, they’re much more expensive than streaming.
If you’re watching something like Dune where sound and cinematography are core to the experience that’s one thing but when was the last time you needed to see a comedy or period drama on the big screen with surround sound?
Ryan is right but there’s way more than just that.
Almost everything about the theatre experience needs to change.
Why is cost of tickets never a part of these conversations?
At least for me, it’s not the expense or even the quality, but the lack of common theater etiquette and rudeness that keeps me away. I’d gladly start going back to see movies in theaters if they would initiate and enforce very simple, common sense rules like „be quiet“ and „phones off“.
it wasn’t gamer’s jobs to save the arcades
and the arcades have mostly died out, limited to a few places for the die hard fans. And that’s okay. People play enough at home and on their phones now.
The last time I went to the theater was for the live action Christopher Robin. It was a unique take on Winnie-the-Pooh. Having a seven year old daughter was a bonus, not the reason.
The next time I plan on going to see a movie in the theater is the adult showing of the Bluey movie. And you know there will be both a Bluey movie and an after 7 pm showing for the adults. Because everybody likes Bluey.
In that span of time, the only movie that was released that tempted me to think about the theater was Civil War. And I think if there was more backstory into why we were having a Civil War, I’d have gone. Instead I watched it at home.
Even Maverick didn’t tickle my fancy enough to spend the cash. And I’m a sucker for a Tom Cruise action movie.
I don’t care about the prices if you make a damn good movie. But tell me a story I haven’t heard in the last 40 years.
It doesn’t need to feel like spending vacation money going to a weekly event.
Ok but The Rock is going to blame everyone when Moana fails
Make the movie worth seeing, and make it priced fairly.
And make the cinema have clean seats. last time I went, it had broken, filthy seats. no thanks. if the movie comes out in a couple of weeks for Tv anyways, my 1€ microwave popcorn and fridge coke and clean sofa beat your overpriced coke, popcorn and filthy seats by a mile.
Yeah we need more movies like Melania /s
And I’ll still be watching them at home
The theatre experience just isn’t worth it.
It’s pricier, requires time commitment and is less comfortable than my couch. But the worst part is people don’t know how to behave in theaters anymore. The talking and phones make it unbearable.