Australier, die auf einem US-U-Boot dienten, das letzte Woche ein iranisches Kriegsschiff versenkte, wurden von der US-Marine in ihre Schlafquartiere beordert, während die Operation zum Abfeuern von Torpedos auf das feindliche Ziel im Gange war, um einer Beteiligung am Angriff zu entgehen.
https://thenightly.com.au/politics/how-australian-submariners-avoided-taking-part-in-iranian-warship-sinking–c-21892748
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close your eyes and cover your ears in the corner over there
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Sounds actually like a decent move from the captain. The USA are at war with Iran, not Australia.
Helps save face for politicians in Australia as well:
> “I can confirm also, though, that no Australian personnel have participated in any offensive action against Iran,” Mr Albanese told Sky News when asked to verify a report in the Sydney Morning Herald.
Why would any ship allow temporary crew to move freely during a live combat scenario. Even the Marines get sent to general quarters during combat drills aboard Navy ships because its not useful having someone without a job moving about. A ship isnt like an office building where there is room to walk around. Lining up for chow is even scheduled by section/unit to minimize crowding of passageways. I dont understand how this info has been so sensationalized.
Standard practice, going back centuries.
Fun fact. A British captain sparked a huge debate on the topic during the war of 1812. He allowed the impressed American members of his crew to go below and sit out a battle against the US Navy during the war of 1812.
Sparked a whole debate on the practice at his court-martial, after he lost his ship. Some of his fellow captains chose not to grant that permission, and forced their captive Americans to fire on their own countrymen.
So literally got told to go to his room. XD
The same thing happened some time ago vice versa when Australia was conducting operations in Papau New Guinea. A US Air Force exchange officer was serving with a RAAF airlift unit and was prevented from participating in operations because the US wasn’t participating in the operation overall. This is expected and normal. A little more awkward on a submarine to be fair.
Had a somewhat similar situation come up several times during air operations over Iraq, regarding British Rules of Engagement and using British tankers.
Rule was, if you took UK gas you fell under UK ROE. So, on the rare occasions we had to send US fighters to get gas from the British, we’d have them only take enough to get back to base.
It’s nice to know there’s at least some honor left in the service. It’s a shame captains like this have to get their orders from the monsters in the white house.
„Mom says it’s our turn to fire torpedos. Go to sleep.“
Happened to my Dad when the US invaded Grenada. He was down in the States cooperative training. He and his company woke up for morning drills and found the base almost abandoned. Everyone was heading to the island. They weren’t told because they were attacking a Commonwealth country which we are aligned with.
That is not surprising, nor wrong.
Honor. Do your best to preserve their honor.
Whenever you value your own, it’s what you do. It’s not their burden to carry.
Well done.
That was smart
If the submarine audio traffic ever gets released and we hear “take that, ya cunts!” we’ll know where they really were during the attack…
Or maybe “that’s not a torpedo, champ, this is a torpedo..”
I remember watching a TV show where there was a Air Force pilot piloting a drone from America but if they wanted to kill someone that wasn’t n’t true the correct rules and engagement he would get up and a CIA official would pull the trigger. Unsure if it’s a true story, but it doesn’t sound too. Far-fetched
Well, don’t need to drag a whole other country into the fight just because they were there.
Great fucking title guys
That’s smart of the USA to do that. Although they might just be saying that who knows
How nice of us Americans.
One thing we can extrapolate from this: there was thought and not pique that went into the decision to fire on that vessel. Not to suggest that it’s forgiveable, but rather that it was calculated. Draw your own conclusions from that.
S.O.P.
Just like the occupation of south Vietnam…military personnel will slowly arrive to help vs Iran as ‘advisors’…it’s all just softening the announcement of eventual ‘boots on ground’
It’s likely this isn’t even true, but a bit of disinformation put out to pacify people who don’t think Australia should be involved in another illegal US war of choice.
„Hey, go to bed right quick.“
*Battle station alarms, torpedo launch*
„Mate, what was that?“
*Distance explosion, crew cheers*
„Nothing, dont worry about it, great day.“
“Po-tey-toes”… “po-tah-toes”… semantics, schmemantics. Ain’t there no difference to me. Whatever makes Albanese and Wong sleep well at night.
Australia soldiers have been serving alongside American soldiers for decades! This is a relatively new organization that is funded by a right wing billionaire, from what I can see. So personally I’m gonna need another outlet to confirm this.
Is this the war ship that was unarmed and participating in an exercise that the US was also invited to? The same one the US bombed and then made no attempt to rescue the drowning sailors?
Thats probably the most exciting thing that’s happened on that sub all year. And the Aussies got sent to their room.
The submarine SANK a warship.