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  1. ResidentSheeper on

    Oh, he would like a cherry on top.

    Fine, he is losing the war anyways. Noone cares. ukraine will take crimea and all the occupied lands within the next year.

  2. fatbreadslut on

    >create insane list of demands

    >hmmm there are some points here we can’t agree to

    >continue the war

    it’s almost like russia doesn’t want peace…

  3. Because Putin doesn’t want a peace treaty, he wants a surrender…and he won’t have it!

  4. He can’t agree to any points that require giving an inch. He’s quite okay to take the full mile though.

    Time to call his lapdog Trump on the carpet. He screwed up getting Putin’s one-sided deal pushed through.

  5. Kushner and Witkoff are traitors. Cut them off of any Moscow connection and let diplomats do the job right. Russia is an absolute clown nation, writing their own peace proposal, selling it as US proposal trough Kushner and Witkoff and reject it. This timeline is fucking nasty.

  6. ZealousidealYam896 on

    Just don’t engage with this serial piss taker and come up with something that actually hurts him

  7. Imaginary-Rub3256 on

    Diplomacy speedrun any% still going… but someone keeps missing checkpoints.

  8. Electrical-Lab-9593 on

    the whole thing was just to start drama between USA and Europe

    on the leaked call, the key thing to remember on the russian side is they were keen to have this presented as american wrote, that was to create friction , it was the point that was repeated in both calls

    „and they will present as their own “

    „charm Trump to make him get behind it“

    the main point was get a stupid plan and pretend the US State department was behind it, that is why the leak was made public, it proves to UA/EU that this was never from Rubio and Co.

    I don’t know if witfkoff knew hes being played by Russia or not, but Kremlin just wanted to have this look like us wrote it, to create even more friction

    best case for Kremlin is a shouting match between EU leaders and Trump, as they know Trump rules via emotion and corruption

  9. Princess_Actual on

    Everyone wants to end the war, but each party wants a different outcome. This could go on into the next *decade*.

  10. Can someone explain why the hell there are 2 real estate developers, one of which is Trump’s son in law, working on one of the most important peace proposals in the world?

    Every single day is another absurdity and US humiliation.

  11. At this point there is so many different versions of these proposals that I have no idea which version Putin is referring to.

  12. Putin cannot accept any peace deal without losing grip on power. He is 100% committed to see this through since he knows the consequences would be deadly for him. Even if all parties accepted the original 28 point peace agreement, Russia would have only gained a quarter of Ukraine after almost 4 years of fighting after catastrophic losses. This would be unacceptable to the oligarchs, military, FSB, and Russian people.

  13. This so called peace treaty was written entirely in favour of Russia and they still won’t agree to it

  14. L0ckeandD3mosthenes on

    Ya the part about needing to be the new ruler of the planet Mother Russian Earth.

  15. ScutumSobiescianum on

    Point 25: we have the right to invade anyone we want and pretend it’s their fault

  16. Wineandbikes on

    Like the existence of Ukraine & Ukrainians for one… /s (just in case)

  17. Davekinney0u812 on

    He is holding all the cards……right??? Ooops – I meant, he is holding the incriminating video, right???

  18. What US proposal? Witkoff is just carrying water for Putin, and the U.S. Congress cannot find enough balls to form a pair.

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