Ich habe gerade einen sehr interessanten Artikel gelesen, in dem es heißt:
„In Deutschland sind Migranten deutlich seltener erwerbstätig als im Inland geborene Staatsbürger als in anderen OECD-Mitgliedstaaten. Nach Angaben der Organisation für wirtschaftliche Zusammenarbeit und Entwicklung (OECD) in ihrem jährlichen Migrationsbericht lag der Anteil der erwerbstätigen Einwanderer in Deutschland im Jahr 2024 bei 69,6 Prozent.“
„Bei den hochqualifizierten Migranten war der Abstand zu den im Inland geborenen Deutschen noch deutlicher und betrug rund 15 Prozentpunkte.“
„Der Bericht zeigt außerdem, dass Migranten in den OECD-Ländern bei ihrem Eintritt in den Arbeitsmarkt durchschnittlich 34 Prozent weniger verdienen als einheimische Arbeitnehmer gleichen Alters und Geschlechts. In Deutschland ist der Unterschied mit 43 Prozent sogar noch deutlicher.“
Bitte antworten Sie ehrlich: Stimmt das und handelt es sich um eine vertrauenswürdige Informationsquelle? Gibt es Beweise, die Zweifel daran aufkommen lassen? Wenn das wahr ist, sollten Sie Ihre Standards nicht entsprechend den Sprachanforderungen senken? Deshalb sagen die Leute wahrscheinlich nicht, wie viel sie verdienen …
Migrants earn significantly less and are employed less often
byu/Polinek_4477 ingermany
Von Polinek_4477
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Yes it’s true.
And the most likely explanation is language. In many other OECD members immigrants come from places where the native language is used (I.E. ex colonies), or english is more commonly used in the workplace in those countries.
Germany functions in german only, and there are no typical emigration countries where german is spoken
How are we supposed to to evaluate the source if you don‘t share it with us?
You didnt Share a source but It seems plausible.
But why should i lower my Standards because of it ?
>If that’s true shouldn’t You lower Your standards?
Why?
>That’s why people are not likely to say how much they earn…
No.. in germany we just don’t really like to talk or brag about money.
most likely depends on the industry. I haven’t noticed it at all in IT (at least more „modern“ IT companies which aren’t ran in German language)
Water is wet
I’m a Ukrainian software engineer with over 10 years experience, I have built so many apps, projects, APIs. Fled the war because my city nearby front line. I have been here since 2024 after mass lay offs in mind geek. Now, i am being offered to work for at least twice less with 50+ percent taxes which means I have to pay to work, income is negative. So far I am getting Bürgergeld because of the job market here, i don’t know German yet, Jobcenter sends me work to apply like a cleaner, lifter at some storage, last time it was a chemical factory etc. which are absolutely irrelevant to my experience, skills and knowledge. I can’t reuse even team management skills.
Yes, I had interviews with EU companies primarily.
>is that true
I think so. Lots of Migrants dont have a job at all or work in simpel jobs, because of bad german language and/or bad education. There are of course exceptions.
>If that’s true shouldn’t You lower Your standards?
Why should we lower our standards? Migrants come to us, to improve their lives. So they need to get to our standard.
>That’s why people are not likely to say how much they earn…
We simply don’t like to talk about our income. It has nothing to do with migrants. Germany is an envious society, and when it comes to income, most people lie anyway.
working in hospital here and we earn actually more than our german coworkers because they acknowledged the previous hospital experience outside Germany.
German job market does this to qualified / skilled / educated EU citizens as well because of the language barrier. When the market couldn’t find what it needed among the natives, things looked promising for non-natives, these days not really. Lots of closet xenophobic people using language as a way to exclude even EU citizens who have the legal right to live and work here, even if you speak German if it is broken you are trash in the eyes of the average German these days and it is getting more and more widespread/acceptable to have this view.
Ever talked to the average migrant? 😂 I say this as a son of Turkish immigrants.
>If that’s true shouldn’t You lower Your standards?
Who is „you“, and which „standards“ do you want them to lower?
Ah yes, because when a local gets picked over a clearly more qualified non-EU candidate, it’s *definitely* just EU labor laws at work, not even a *whiff* of latent discrimination. Just good ol’ coincidence, right? And no, this isn’t some sweeping generalization, but let’s not gaslight ourselves into thinking this kind of thing doesn’t exist either.
I’m a highly qualified immigrant in my first job with B2 level German, and can confirm this is true.
Most of us start our careers a couple of steps lower in the career ladder. This has to do with conversational language, work language, differences in work aspects between our home country and here, and lack of familiarity with work culture here.
If I had 10-15 years work experience in another country, we typically start here with roles equivalent to say 5 years of experience.
There is also a possibility that Germany allows migrants to live well enough without employment or allows migrants to work unreported.
I’m not saying it’s those factors. I’m saying such statistics rarely mean anything specific when you even half think about it.