Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, said that Ukraine will have to give up land seized by Russia as part of any peace deal as he flew to Saudi Arabia for make-or-break talks.
President Zelensky of Ukraine arrived in Jeddah on Monday before talks aimed at reviving Kyiv’s fractured relationship with Washington and persuading President Trump of a means to end the war with Russia without Ukraine’s all-out surrender.
At high-level talks in the Saudi coastal city on Tuesday, Ukraine is expected to lay out its proposal for a sea and air truce as an opening gambit in its pursuit of an equitable peace with Russia
JustKiddingDude on
I dont think the issue is the ceding of land, but the security guarantees after the peace deal.
MeatTenderizer on
US negotiating on behalf of Russia, brilliant.
kinky-proton on
I mean, unpopular and unfair but its still true.
The sooner he accepts this the better for Ukraine
stockist420 on
Give up conquered land to Russia, and unconquered land to US and Russia. What a peace deal.
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ApostleofV8 on
Ok, so far US has made it clear no nato, must cede land, no us guarantee etc etc
So, what does Russia have to do?
OccupyMyBrainOyeah on
This sucks. People who have the opinion that „the reality is that Ukraina was never going to win and it has to give up territory blablabla“ suck.
Kevster020 on
Appeasement will not work. There’s no way Putin will stop there and the US admin knows this.
Top-Information1234 on
I think Russia should cede some land too
yell0brIckR0ad on
No deal.
shalelord on
Its 1930’s all over again.
unjour on
Would Russia trade sanctions relief for non-US security guarantees? Something like this:
1. Russia keeps occupied territories, but not the full extent of the annexed land.
2. Russia sanctions relief.
3. Ukraine receives security guarantee from a coalition of the willing (France, UK, Poland etc.) who deploy troops into the country.
North-Beautiful7417 on
Great news! How much land though?
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Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, said that Ukraine will have to give up land seized by Russia as part of any peace deal as he flew to Saudi Arabia for make-or-break talks.
President Zelensky of Ukraine arrived in Jeddah on Monday before talks aimed at reviving Kyiv’s fractured relationship with Washington and persuading President Trump of a means to end the war with Russia without Ukraine’s all-out surrender.
At high-level talks in the Saudi coastal city on Tuesday, Ukraine is expected to lay out its proposal for a sea and air truce as an opening gambit in its pursuit of an equitable peace with Russia
I dont think the issue is the ceding of land, but the security guarantees after the peace deal.
US negotiating on behalf of Russia, brilliant.
I mean, unpopular and unfair but its still true.
The sooner he accepts this the better for Ukraine
Give up conquered land to Russia, and unconquered land to US and Russia. What a peace deal.
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Ok, so far US has made it clear no nato, must cede land, no us guarantee etc etc
So, what does Russia have to do?
This sucks. People who have the opinion that „the reality is that Ukraina was never going to win and it has to give up territory blablabla“ suck.
Appeasement will not work. There’s no way Putin will stop there and the US admin knows this.
I think Russia should cede some land too
No deal.
Its 1930’s all over again.
Would Russia trade sanctions relief for non-US security guarantees? Something like this:
1. Russia keeps occupied territories, but not the full extent of the annexed land.
2. Russia sanctions relief.
3. Ukraine receives security guarantee from a coalition of the willing (France, UK, Poland etc.) who deploy troops into the country.
Great news! How much land though?