Die Ukraine muss Land für den Frieden abtreten, sagt Marco Rubio gegenüber Zelensky

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    1. TimesandSundayTimes on

      Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, said that Ukraine will have to give up land seized by Russia as part of any peace deal as he flew to Saudi Arabia for make-or-break talks.

      President Zelensky of Ukraine arrived in Jeddah on Monday before talks aimed at reviving Kyiv’s fractured relationship with Washington and persuading President Trump of a means to end the war with Russia without Ukraine’s all-out surrender.

      At high-level talks in the Saudi coastal city on Tuesday, Ukraine is expected to lay out its proposal for a sea and air truce as an opening gambit in its pursuit of an equitable peace with Russia

    2. JustKiddingDude on

      I dont think the issue is the ceding of land, but the security guarantees after the peace deal.

    3. kinky-proton on

      I mean, unpopular and unfair but its still true.

      The sooner he accepts this the better for Ukraine

    4. stockist420 on

      Give up conquered land to Russia, and unconquered land to US and Russia. What a peace deal.

    5. ApostleofV8 on

      Ok, so far US has made it clear no nato, must cede land, no us guarantee etc etc

      So, what does Russia have to do?

    6. OccupyMyBrainOyeah on

      This sucks. People who have the opinion that „the reality is that Ukraina was never going to win and it has to give up territory blablabla“ suck.

    7. Appeasement will not work. There’s no way Putin will stop there and the US admin knows this.

    8. Would Russia trade sanctions relief for non-US security guarantees? Something like this:

      1. Russia keeps occupied territories, but not the full extent of the annexed land.
      2. Russia sanctions relief.
      3. Ukraine receives security guarantee from a coalition of the willing (France, UK, Poland etc.) who deploy troops into the country.

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