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    Mutter soll die 180.000-Pfund-Verlängerung abreißen und sagt: „Meine Familie wird für immer getrennt sein“

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    1. AsymmetricNinja08 on

      Builder should be prosecuted for putting it up & lying to her about planning. She’s obviously naive to fall for that but I sympathise.

      It looks they did a terrible job too & a bit of a nightmare project 

    2. Prestigious_Spot9635 on

      She really should have done her DD. Builders will say whatever to secure deal. Hopefully, she has stuff in writing and can claim against the builder.

      It’s why I warn many in /r/housinguk to be careful with recent extension that have no planning permission. Usually end up get downvoted there

    3. Mountain_Wafer_9340 on

      I’m torn. Why would you spend so much money and not get proper checks or insurance against a cock up versus ‚the keeping of the area‘ – I mean the area looks like nothing special, so that feels like kind of a ridiculous reason if that’s the only reason.

    4. Sufficient-Cold-9496 on

      So she just blindly followed the builders‘ advice, the builder that makes a living from building things instead of checking herself.

      Unless there was something written into the contract, then she is 100% to blame for her own misfortune.

      If the contract said the builder would check and apply for PP then she may be able to take action against the builder if possible, however even then she should have sought secondary independent advice – or done it herself as the consequences of not doing so are dire – as she is now finding out.

    5. VideoLooksWeird on

      Dumb shit. What’s the point of the go fund me?
      Why not just let the council take care of it? The article says if she’s doesn’t do what they ask, the council will take over.

    6. i_am_nimue on

      Oh this nice builder who wanted my money said it was gonna be OK? Surely it was gonna be OK, no????

      Who just goes with the verbal reassurance from a builder. I feel bad for ber, but I also feel like she hasn’t done her due diligence.

    7. Burnit_Sanders on

      I understand the council demanding it being ripped down, if they don’t stick to their guns everyone will build what they want and feign ignorance after.

      Perhaps there has to be a better process though. Builder writes up the plan, and has to get it signed off by someone in the council. Council efficiency means that will probably take months, but it’s better to be delayed than waste £180k.

    9. makefascistfearagain on

      Wasted 200k building a shit extension and is now begging for 50k to pull it down lol

    10. StrengthNo467 on

      I have no sympathy. It takes 5 minutes to read into planning and it’s pure common sense that if no one else on your street has done it, you probably can’t do it either. If the council permits this then it effectively makes planning permission redundant.

      She also isn’t taking responsibility for a massive mistake:

      „We’ve had no one reach out to help and the GoFundMe never got off the ground.“

      „I trusted a builder who told me planning permission wasn’t needed. That mistake has now put my entire family at risk of losing everything.“

      It’s clearly stated on the planning portal that it’s the landowners responsibility to get permission.

    11. wkavinsky on

      > alleges the builder she hired to carry out the work assured her she would not require planning permission to replace the conservatory with the two-storey extension

      I mean that’s just not true, but equally, it’s *not the councils problem*.

      Just cause Dave down the pub says it’s OK, doesn’t mean it is, and that’s why it falls on you to do your own checking.

      *Edit: on further reading, the council is already bending over backwards to try and help her, but that doesn’t change the facts, you need planning permission for almost everything permanent on a house*

    12. Astriania on

      I do have some sympathy for her as she’s been taken in by a cowboy builder (you’d imagine she could sue, but presumably the company will be mysteriously cash poor at that moment). But c’mon, do your own research and see if you need planning permission before you commit to something like that.

      And also, unless that kitchen is gold plated, I can’t help feeling she’s been ripped off if that cost £180k as well.

    13. Electronic-Stay-2369 on

      Builder lied about the planning and ripped her off. £180K for that!

    15. Standard-Still-8128 on

      180k for that lol bet there’s full houses for sale at that price around there

    16. ChattyBear on

      Planning committee workloads are full of people who insisted that nobody told them. These people are invariably tiresome and ruin quality of life for their neighbours. Fuck ’em.

    17. RiceeeChrispies on

      £180k extension? Should’ve just moved house luv.

      Nothing like broadcasting your incompetence to the population and getting the begging bowl out. Do people have no shame? Do your due diligence next time you decide to spend £180,000.

    18. MBronsonWisconsin on

      No sympathy either.

      She owns the home and knows it’s her responsibility to obtain planning permission, she must’ve just thought she’d get away with it.
      I think the £180,000 is a made-up number, maybe she thought it would pull on somebody’s heart-strings, but local authorities ain’t going to fall for that.

      I’m SO sick of people setting up gofundme accounts related to their own stupidity/ lack of foresight / chancing it.

      Also, she’s making out like her house will be unliveable if everybody doesn’t have their own bedroom – kids (and some adults) have had to share rooms since…forever.

      Local authorities can’t cope with the amount of people they’re required to house – this silly woman owns a house and has no need for social housing, looks like it’s all a big fabricated sob story. There’s lots of people genuinely deserve sympathy – this doesn’t seem to be one of those cases.

    19. Minute-Employ-4964 on

      Yeh sounds about right.

      Never trust the person telling you something if it helps them make a sale.

    20. adamdemarco74 on

      Surely you would go for retrospective planning and then to planning committee if there’s objections

    21. OldGuto on

      Planning permission, I bet if one of her neighbours did similar she’d be straight onto the council about it.

      I strongly suspect someone gave her the „build it and get retrospective planning permission“ ‚top tip‘. Maybe the builder, maybe a friend, maybe a family member or she read about it somewhere.

    22. Bubble-Master96 on

      Nah the comments giving her so much grace are ridiculous. Woman has £180k to spend but couldn’t spend 5 minutes confirming what she’s actually allowed to do. I have 0 sympathy.

    25. ololyge on

      She may be telling the truth, I don’t know, but you see countless properties across the country built without adequate PP or building regs and the operating assumption is usually (not always) that you’ll get away with it (and save money) because being told to tear something down is such a drastic remedy it’s so unlikely. But the broader repercussions of letting people get away with these kinds of cynical breaches is a tonne of poorly built, poorly planned Frankenstein structures and subsequent buyers taking on all this unnecessary risk

    26. Ambitious_Topic_9827 on

      Where is the floorplan! I can tell already it’s the 45 Deg angle on the first floor

      Just how audacious was she?
      I know it’s a nag getting architectural drawings but I ended up finding out my 5m extension was permitted development. The letter is stored with the deeds as proof

    27. ExpressAffect3262 on

      £180k extension for just 2 family members?

      Obviously questioning the price, but why not just put £180k down on a deposit of a house for them lol…

    28. box_twenty_two on

      “Suzie Cavadino says her head has „fallen off“ after being ordered to demolish the first floor of her two-storey extension”

      Story aside, this really made me laugh. Sounds like her head had already fallen off when she thought she wouldn’t need planning permission to put an extension up

    29. jenny_905 on

      >Suzie, who lives with her four children aged between 12 and 19, alleges the builder she hired to carry out the work assured her she would not require planning permission to replace the conservatory with the two-storey extension.

      …

      I guess if it’s your first time this is possible but I just sorta assumed everyone knew that UK local authority planning rules are absolutely brutal and a famous pain in the arse to do anything. Building a shed requires planning permission in many cases, of course a big extension requires it.

    30. dyedinthewoolScot on

      £180k for that?!? Expensive and expensive mistake to make. Unless she has it in writing that the planning was part of the builder’s contract she’s on to plums.

      You have to check and double check and I’d have asked to see the certificate to confirm the permission had been granted, otherwise where is her proof?!? She would need it as the homeowner

    31. Less_Mess_5803 on

      This is all on her. And oh look, a go fund her botox and fake tan and holidays fund has been set up. You can take the chav out of Bootle….

    33. knoWurHistory91 on

      Yep the it’s ok I don’t need planning I’m never selling it then phone call 5 years later and it’s all your fault.

    34. Quirky_Shake2506 on

      Pretty sure ten seconds on Google would have told her a two storey extension doesn’t fall within a permitted development

    35. PleasantCucumber2615 on

      I don’t believe that she wasn’t aware planning permission was needed. If the builder did give her that advice I hope she can recover the costs from them rather than relying on Gofundme.

      Imagine living next door to that extension. It is far too big and out of place for that street.

      You’ve got to have little consideration for your neighbours if you think building that extension was acceptable.

    37. sjw_7 on

      I really don’t have any sympathy for her. If she took responsibility and said she messed up then I would have a bit. But all she is doing is blaming everyone else and whining about it.

      Its her responsibility as the homeowner to make sure she has planning permission. Its very easy to find out what you need planning permission for and its common knowledge that a two story extension is going to require it.

      Yes the builder is a dick for advising her that she didn’t. But he is being paid to build something and not do all the checks to make sure they have the permissions in place.

      Edit:

      She applied for planning permission in 2021 and 2022 to build an extension at the ‚front‘ of the house but it was refused. She then went and had it built at the back instead without .

      Nov 2021 – [https://pa.westlancs.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=QYR2H4RHKO200](https://pa.westlancs.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=QYR2H4RHKO200)

      Apr 2022 – [https://pa.westlancs.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=R7NILGRHFIO00](https://pa.westlancs.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=R7NILGRHFIO00)

      I definitely do not have any sympathy for her.

    38. WhoYaTalkinTo on

      I mean, if i was one of the neighbours that eyesore blocking half a days sunlight would piss me off.

      To be honest, there’s a lot going on in the world right now, too much for me to shed tears for someone who has £180,000 to waste on a half thrown together plan

    39. NotAnotherThing on

      Getting planning permission is the most basic first step and certainly not hidden knowledge. Unfortunately, she didn’t check for herself.

    40. Danmoz81 on

      Do you ever just look at some of these people and think „how do you even have £180k to throw around“?

    42. Significant-Ant4360 on

      I can’t imagine doing work that extensive and not needing planning permission. As the owner, how hard would it have been to find that out on her own before spending so much money?

    43. Alfredthegiraffe20 on

      Where did all the children sleep before the extension? Obviously tight even now but to expect to get permission to keep it by claiming your family will be divided forever is mad.

    44. parsl on

      So the builder didn’t tell her about the need for planning permission, nor the architect, no friends or family, and even more unbelievable, no neighbours piped up when they saw work starting?

    45. Chaosvex on

      The article directly below this one: Next boss: UK planning system is ‘biggest drag’ on growth.

      True whiplash.

    46. Easy_Topic_8273 on

      Yeah that unfortunately is on her, but I can’t honestly say I wouldn’t have done the same if a builder told me the same. However Dont u need an architect to do that, did he show her the plans?I totally feel for her.

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