Laut einer neuen Umfrage würden zwei Drittel der Albertaner dafür stimmen, in Kanada zu bleiben oder diesen Weg zu beschreiten | CBC-Nachrichten

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    1. wet_suit_one on

      So now the question is, is that minority of separatists enough to cause us economic damage?

      I’d assume not, but hey who knows? When these people take a shotgun to their face, they’re going to blow off a piece of their neighbour’s face too.

      Let the good times roll!

      Thinking about this further, there’s a reason that continental sized countries were preferred in the past. Those reasons have to do with national security and the realities of warfare.

      Poland is the country to consider in this context. Do you want to have the history of Poland?

      People (both inside and outside of Alberta) should really think about this. It’s never been issue on this continent (save for the Civil War), but it would become one with an independent Alberta. The butcher’s bill may not come due for centuries, but war and the threat of it is always with us (see all of recorded history for reference).

      Is that really something you want to introduce as a greater likelihood for your descendants? If you’re going to have that entirely foreseeable fight, is it not perhaps wiser to have it now when it will be small and easy than later when it might prove to be a brutally horrific monster that no on will have wanted and will try their best to forget.

      Quite frankly, for national security reasons alone, I wonder if Canada would not be wise to make it a criminal offense to promote separatism? From a security perspective, it makes a whole lot of sense.

      If you think this is a non issue, again, I suggest you study Poland’s history. A history Poland wouldn’t have as a continental country.

    2. This is bad news for separation. They might be loud but they are not with the majority. 1 in 3 can’t speak for a province.

    3. MTL_Dude666 on

      Most people advocating separatism in Canada (e.g, in Quebec and in Alberta) do not even understand that:

      **1)** There is NO explicit provision in Canada’s Constitution for separation (see last point below).

      **2)** The Supreme Court of Canada stated that ANY process for separating HAS TO take account the following:

      * There is absolutely NO RIGHT for unilateral secession. No province can unilaterally declare independence as per Canadian laws AND INTERNATIONAL LAWS.
      * There’s the OBLIGATION to NEGOCIATE if there’s a CLEAR MAJORITY of the population of a province who wants to separate.
      * The Clarity Act gives the rules on what is considered „clear“ and it is the HOUSE OF COMMONS who determines if a referendum question is „clear“ and if the result of that referendum is „clear“.
      * Once all of that is passed, the Constitution need to be amended, which requires ALL PROVINCES and the federal government to agree on this.

      **TL;DR: A province cannot decide by itself to separate from Canada, especially not if it does so in a matter that angers all other provinces.**

    4. The regionals is also a pretty damning indication of the movement.

      – Edmonton: 74% stay | 21% leave
      – Calgary: 69% stay | 25% leave
      – Rest of Alberta: 55% stay | 40% leave

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