To all of you naysayers, at least they are trying. Though this should have been done from the get go!
Snippet:
* Reps. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) and Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) are planning to introduce a bill that would strip federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers of their qualified immunity protections.
* The bill, called the ICE OUT Act, comes amid fervent debate over whether an ICE officer should face criminal prosecution for the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Renee Nicole Macklin Good on Wednesday.
* The shooting put renewed attention on the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement tactics and called into question whether the officer’s use of force violated state or federal law.
* Federal law enforcement officers have broad legal protections when acting in the scope of their official duties. Still, states can bring charges under certain circumstances, including when an officer’s actions violate the law or are deemed not to be “necessary and proper” to fulfill their duties.
Edited to add:
>**Qualified immunity is a legal doctrine protecting government officials**, like police, from liability in civil lawsuits for constitutional violations, unless their conduct violated a „clearly established“ right, meaning a prior court case with nearly identical facts found such conduct unconstitutional. It balances holding officials accountable with shielding them from frivolous lawsuits, but critics argue it makes it extremely difficult to hold officers responsible for misconduct, while proponents say it allows them to perform duties without fear.
Doublebosco on
Strip their leadership of command first.
JournalistRecent1230 on
Seriously, qualified immunity needs to go. If individual ICE members are aware they can face civil consequences to their livelihoods for their gross negligence then maybe they’ll be more cautious about resorting to unchecked violence in every situation they face.
ImLikeReallySmart on
The same people who defend qualified immunity are often the same ones who like to say „nobody is above the law“. You literally can’t believe in both.
pile_of_fish on
Let’s disarm them, too. Immigration charges arent felonies. They dont need 50 lbs of tactical hardware to arrest folks on administrative charges.
Toadfinger on
It’s a start. The Trump administration is declaring war on innocent Americans. What’s next? Drone strike homes with Democrat political signs in the front yard?
PuffPuffFayeFaye on
Strip all qualified immunity.
Just erase ICE from existence.
Physical-Dare5059 on
How about make them take their fucking masks off.
eskimospy212 on
My only complaint is they should eliminate QI entirely and not just for ICE. It’s an entirely made up doctrine with no basis in the law or constitution that has allowed horrific police abuse.
Illustrious_Hotel527 on
Strip them of their citizenship then deport them.
Prophet_Tehenhauin on
No cop should have qualified immunity. We don’t live in a fairytale
Electrical_Iron_1161 on
They should be forced to wear body cams also
elconquistador1985 on
No one should have any immunity, not even you local pigs. Nothing will improve until they can face genuine consequences for harming you. As it stands, they do not give a fuck about violating you rights because it will never affect them. At best, you get to sue the municipality or county or whatever.
KingMario05 on
A good start. Now strip ICE of funding.
Sirduffselot on
This will never happen… but at least you’re forcing a vote on it, good work
Evilton on
Nazi foot soldiers should not have immunity of any kind.
mels883 on
Should force them to carry insurance not unlike medical malpractice insurance if you carry or are required to carry a firearm for your job
Jolly_Grocery329 on
Cut funding Congress!!! Do you job! We’re literally being killed out here.
Local_Bowl on
Attorney here, once upon a time i worked at a firm that defended state agencies, including the department of corrections, against civil rights lawsuits (section 1983 claims). Let me tell you, while qualified immunity as a concept likely has place in our legal system to a degree, it has become nothing more than a functional bar against holding individuals responsible for just about everything.
It should be easier to strip QI from these people, police officers and other LEO should have to carry insurance, and damages for this type of behavior should also come partly out of their retirement. It’s absolutely insane that these people can commit these acts with functionally no repercussions, except a paid vacation to a desk job or just sent off to another department to continue as though nothing happened.
MasChingonNoHay on
It will be voted down. Vote in midterms!
dover_oxide on
Even if they pass it, it’s going to get vetoed and then they don’t have the majority of a 60% vote to override a veto
arthurdentxxxxii on
There are not qualified. They are violent cosplayers
BigB0iBuster on
Every single ICE agent must be sent to CECOT or Guantanamo.
Since they think that’s where criminals and terrorists belong, it’s only fair that they face incarceration for their endless violent crimes in those places.
East-Feature-2198 on
Do this for all law enforcement.
Morbidly-Obese-Emu on
Great idea. I don’t think it will even make it to the floor, let alone pass in this congress, but it’s worth trying.
Geler on
DOJ will not charge them anyway. Defund them.
Torched420 on
How about we abolish qualified immunity all together? Cops laugh at uninformed citizens who call themselves sovereign citizens because they know with qualified immunity all government actors are the real sovereign citizens.
iiitme on
Im going to be real upset the day they give qualified immunity to deputized maga citizens. Cause it’s not democrats out here stealing people off the streets.
Falchion_Alpha on
Qualified immunity needs to be gone for the whole country, maybe then cops can behave themselves
dehydratedrain on
Good. I also believe all ICE should have a visible identifier (think police badge number) on their uniform so they can’t hide behind face masks and swapped license plates. Database shouldn’t be public, but has to be readily accessible to be prosecuted for any crimes.
SnooMemesjellies7469 on
How about stripping LE in general of qualified immunity?
No-Document-8970 on
No police officer, politician, or federal agent should have any immunity.
ytsurr on
How about we just abolish ICE? Great, thanks!
shadowdra126 on
They shouldn’t have any immunity?
pseudowoodo3 on
This is like proposing a bandaid for someone who’s lost a limb.
AnyLuck9929 on
And it will be vetoed and that will be the end of that
PuppyCocktheFirst on
Do it for cops too.
slobis on
One of the things lost in all this is that ICE, according to it’s own charter, has no jurisdiction over US citizens.
Whatisgoingon2029 on
Don’t stop at ICE. Tyranny knows no boundaries.
Avenger772 on
The democratic candidate that I’m voting for is the one that says they are getting rid of ice completely and will be prosecuting every single one of these Nazis to the fullest extent of the law. And will be expanding the supreme Court
heeeeres_jonny on
It’s a start. But when Democrats take back the House, ICE must be abolished entirely, not „dramatically and overwhelmingly revamped“ as they suggest at the end
endmaga2028 on
End qualified immunity for all law enforcement.
fnordfnordfnordfnord on
Just strip all cops of qualified immunity. It’s been a disaster for civil rights.
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Good first step.
Next we need to strip it from all LEO.
Strip them of funding. Stop paying them.
To all of you naysayers, at least they are trying. Though this should have been done from the get go!
Snippet:
* Reps. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) and Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) are planning to introduce a bill that would strip federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers of their qualified immunity protections.
* The bill, called the ICE OUT Act, comes amid fervent debate over whether an ICE officer should face criminal prosecution for the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Renee Nicole Macklin Good on Wednesday.
* The shooting put renewed attention on the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement tactics and called into question whether the officer’s use of force violated state or federal law.
* Federal law enforcement officers have broad legal protections when acting in the scope of their official duties. Still, states can bring charges under certain circumstances, including when an officer’s actions violate the law or are deemed not to be “necessary and proper” to fulfill their duties.
Edited to add:
>**Qualified immunity is a legal doctrine protecting government officials**, like police, from liability in civil lawsuits for constitutional violations, unless their conduct violated a „clearly established“ right, meaning a prior court case with nearly identical facts found such conduct unconstitutional. It balances holding officials accountable with shielding them from frivolous lawsuits, but critics argue it makes it extremely difficult to hold officers responsible for misconduct, while proponents say it allows them to perform duties without fear.
Strip their leadership of command first.
Seriously, qualified immunity needs to go. If individual ICE members are aware they can face civil consequences to their livelihoods for their gross negligence then maybe they’ll be more cautious about resorting to unchecked violence in every situation they face.
The same people who defend qualified immunity are often the same ones who like to say „nobody is above the law“. You literally can’t believe in both.
Let’s disarm them, too. Immigration charges arent felonies. They dont need 50 lbs of tactical hardware to arrest folks on administrative charges.
It’s a start. The Trump administration is declaring war on innocent Americans. What’s next? Drone strike homes with Democrat political signs in the front yard?
Strip all qualified immunity.
Just erase ICE from existence.
How about make them take their fucking masks off.
My only complaint is they should eliminate QI entirely and not just for ICE. It’s an entirely made up doctrine with no basis in the law or constitution that has allowed horrific police abuse.
Strip them of their citizenship then deport them.
No cop should have qualified immunity. We don’t live in a fairytale
They should be forced to wear body cams also
No one should have any immunity, not even you local pigs. Nothing will improve until they can face genuine consequences for harming you. As it stands, they do not give a fuck about violating you rights because it will never affect them. At best, you get to sue the municipality or county or whatever.
A good start. Now strip ICE of funding.
This will never happen… but at least you’re forcing a vote on it, good work
Nazi foot soldiers should not have immunity of any kind.
Should force them to carry insurance not unlike medical malpractice insurance if you carry or are required to carry a firearm for your job
Cut funding Congress!!! Do you job! We’re literally being killed out here.
Attorney here, once upon a time i worked at a firm that defended state agencies, including the department of corrections, against civil rights lawsuits (section 1983 claims). Let me tell you, while qualified immunity as a concept likely has place in our legal system to a degree, it has become nothing more than a functional bar against holding individuals responsible for just about everything.
It should be easier to strip QI from these people, police officers and other LEO should have to carry insurance, and damages for this type of behavior should also come partly out of their retirement. It’s absolutely insane that these people can commit these acts with functionally no repercussions, except a paid vacation to a desk job or just sent off to another department to continue as though nothing happened.
It will be voted down. Vote in midterms!
Even if they pass it, it’s going to get vetoed and then they don’t have the majority of a 60% vote to override a veto
There are not qualified. They are violent cosplayers
Every single ICE agent must be sent to CECOT or Guantanamo.
Since they think that’s where criminals and terrorists belong, it’s only fair that they face incarceration for their endless violent crimes in those places.
Do this for all law enforcement.
Great idea. I don’t think it will even make it to the floor, let alone pass in this congress, but it’s worth trying.
DOJ will not charge them anyway. Defund them.
How about we abolish qualified immunity all together? Cops laugh at uninformed citizens who call themselves sovereign citizens because they know with qualified immunity all government actors are the real sovereign citizens.
Im going to be real upset the day they give qualified immunity to deputized maga citizens. Cause it’s not democrats out here stealing people off the streets.
Qualified immunity needs to be gone for the whole country, maybe then cops can behave themselves
Good. I also believe all ICE should have a visible identifier (think police badge number) on their uniform so they can’t hide behind face masks and swapped license plates. Database shouldn’t be public, but has to be readily accessible to be prosecuted for any crimes.
How about stripping LE in general of qualified immunity?
No police officer, politician, or federal agent should have any immunity.
How about we just abolish ICE? Great, thanks!
They shouldn’t have any immunity?
This is like proposing a bandaid for someone who’s lost a limb.
And it will be vetoed and that will be the end of that
Do it for cops too.
One of the things lost in all this is that ICE, according to it’s own charter, has no jurisdiction over US citizens.
Don’t stop at ICE. Tyranny knows no boundaries.
The democratic candidate that I’m voting for is the one that says they are getting rid of ice completely and will be prosecuting every single one of these Nazis to the fullest extent of the law. And will be expanding the supreme Court
It’s a start. But when Democrats take back the House, ICE must be abolished entirely, not „dramatically and overwhelmingly revamped“ as they suggest at the end
End qualified immunity for all law enforcement.
Just strip all cops of qualified immunity. It’s been a disaster for civil rights.