Before the sixties, as Brasília, the capital of Brazil is not appearing.
But after 1941 as Ecuador de facto recognized Peruvian border (until 1942 de facto, Ecuador claimed Iquitos and a part of the Amazon). Now Ecuador-Peru border dispute has been settled. And it is after the Chaco war where Paraguay won in mid 1930s as present day borders are shown in South America, except for the not yet independent Guianas.
Present-Wonder-7754 on
Based on the geopolitical boundaries shown on this Arabic-language map of the Americas, this map can be dated to approximately **1903 to 1914**.
Here is the breakdown of the evidence used to narrow down this timeframe:
### 1. The Separation of Panama (After 1903)
The map clearly shows **Panama** as a separate country from Colombia. Panama declared its independence from Colombia in **November 1903** with the support of the United States. Maps printed before late 1903 would show Panama as a province of Colombia.
### 2. The Acre Territory (Post-1903)
Look at the border between Brazil and Bolivia. The map reflects the outcome of the **Treaty of Petrópolis (1903)**, where Bolivia ceded the Acre region to Brazil. The current shape of Brazil’s „hook“ into the Amazon is present here.
### 3. British and Dutch Guiana (Pre-1960s/70s)
In South America, the colonies are labeled as **British Guiana** (now Guyana, independent 1966) and **Dutch Guiana** (now Suriname, independent 1975). This places the map firmly in the early-to-mid 20th century.
### 4. Lack of Canadian Provinces (Before 1905–1912)
There are significant clues in Northern North America:
* **Canada:** The map shows the „Northwest Territories“ occupying a massive portion of the west. Saskatchewan and Alberta are not yet distinct provinces (created in **1905**).
* **The Arctic:** The borders of the northern territories do not yet reflect the expansion of Manitoba, Ontario, and Quebec that occurred in **1912**.
### 5. Orthography and Style
The Arabic script used is a traditional **Naskh/Thuluth** style often found in Ottoman-era or early post-Ottoman educational materials (likely printed in Egypt or the Levant). The terminology used for „The United States“ (الولايات المتحدة الاميركية) and the naming of cities like „New York“ (نيويورك) and „Chicago“ (شيكاغو) follows the conventions of the early 1900s.
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**Estimated Date:** **c. 1905**
The map was likely produced shortly after the independence of Panama but before the full provincial reorganization of Canada was widely updated in international atlases.
**Would you like me to translate any specific city names or regions from the map for you?**
Ok-Prompt2623 on
I can but I don’t put out
KingKohishi on
Probably from an early 20th century Ottoman geography atlas.
UnknownEars8675 on
I asked it out to dinner, so I attempted to date it, but it did not respond, so I think no date will happen.
yire1shalom on
That’s not arabic, thats Ottoman Turkish
CaptainAbraham82 on
No. While I do love maps, I’m also happily married.
Environmental-Cold24 on
Belize isnt independent yet. Same for Suriname. So before 1975. Based on the drawing style I would estimate 1930s.
Ymmaleighe2 on
Absolutely based for including Iceland as part of the Americas
unreasonable-frog on
Well, it’s from before Trump invaded Greenland. /s
[deleted] on
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JustHereForTheBeer_ on
It’s from 1908. Source: Google
patrick-1977 on
Date…our calendar or the Arabic?
RightToTheThighs on
I’m already in a relationship
starless_90 on
It’s not as old as you think.
rafcastro on
Shows Chicxulub crater, so after 65.000.000 years ago
BornPraline5607 on
Mexico already lost half of its land mass. So, after 1860s
Epicycler on
„H-hey there, y-you doing anything later? I was thinking about getting drinks. Oh–you don’t do that? Yeah, sorry, I should have known…“
Well I tried, and blew it.
Titus1928 on
It seems strange to me that Belize appears as part of Mexico
Victim-of-Censorship on
sometime after Napoleon because Spain lost these colonies idk about these countries though I don’t really bother to learn post colonial states
Titanhopper1290 on
My estimate is 1960s, as Alaska joined the Union in 1959
tpars on
Since recent hub bub, i never really noticed how maps of the Americas are inconsistent in how they show Greenland. This one obviously has it. Others don’t include it.
Raph0uX on
2035 😏
ataeil on
Since most of southern Ontario is owned by the states I have no idea.
lukami28 on
The style is similar to the Damascus Atlas of 1957, so it might be made by the same artists or is a reproduction of the original work.
(i asked ai)
zhang__ on
You want to “date” it because it’s in Arabic? Come on man
Quick-Employment499 on
Prior to 1966
Thats when guyana got independence from britain
LetRevolutionary271 on
It’s a 50’s map because there’s no Brasilia and Newfoundland is Canadian
Noctisvah on
It is surprisingly readable, for the most part
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Before the sixties, as Brasília, the capital of Brazil is not appearing.
But after 1941 as Ecuador de facto recognized Peruvian border (until 1942 de facto, Ecuador claimed Iquitos and a part of the Amazon). Now Ecuador-Peru border dispute has been settled. And it is after the Chaco war where Paraguay won in mid 1930s as present day borders are shown in South America, except for the not yet independent Guianas.
Based on the geopolitical boundaries shown on this Arabic-language map of the Americas, this map can be dated to approximately **1903 to 1914**.
Here is the breakdown of the evidence used to narrow down this timeframe:
### 1. The Separation of Panama (After 1903)
The map clearly shows **Panama** as a separate country from Colombia. Panama declared its independence from Colombia in **November 1903** with the support of the United States. Maps printed before late 1903 would show Panama as a province of Colombia.
### 2. The Acre Territory (Post-1903)
Look at the border between Brazil and Bolivia. The map reflects the outcome of the **Treaty of Petrópolis (1903)**, where Bolivia ceded the Acre region to Brazil. The current shape of Brazil’s „hook“ into the Amazon is present here.
### 3. British and Dutch Guiana (Pre-1960s/70s)
In South America, the colonies are labeled as **British Guiana** (now Guyana, independent 1966) and **Dutch Guiana** (now Suriname, independent 1975). This places the map firmly in the early-to-mid 20th century.
### 4. Lack of Canadian Provinces (Before 1905–1912)
There are significant clues in Northern North America:
* **Canada:** The map shows the „Northwest Territories“ occupying a massive portion of the west. Saskatchewan and Alberta are not yet distinct provinces (created in **1905**).
* **The Arctic:** The borders of the northern territories do not yet reflect the expansion of Manitoba, Ontario, and Quebec that occurred in **1912**.
### 5. Orthography and Style
The Arabic script used is a traditional **Naskh/Thuluth** style often found in Ottoman-era or early post-Ottoman educational materials (likely printed in Egypt or the Levant). The terminology used for „The United States“ (الولايات المتحدة الاميركية) and the naming of cities like „New York“ (نيويورك) and „Chicago“ (شيكاغو) follows the conventions of the early 1900s.
—
**Estimated Date:** **c. 1905**
The map was likely produced shortly after the independence of Panama but before the full provincial reorganization of Canada was widely updated in international atlases.
**Would you like me to translate any specific city names or regions from the map for you?**
I can but I don’t put out
Probably from an early 20th century Ottoman geography atlas.
I asked it out to dinner, so I attempted to date it, but it did not respond, so I think no date will happen.
That’s not arabic, thats Ottoman Turkish
No. While I do love maps, I’m also happily married.
Belize isnt independent yet. Same for Suriname. So before 1975. Based on the drawing style I would estimate 1930s.
Absolutely based for including Iceland as part of the Americas
Well, it’s from before Trump invaded Greenland. /s
[deleted]
It’s from 1908. Source: Google
Date…our calendar or the Arabic?
I’m already in a relationship
It’s not as old as you think.
Shows Chicxulub crater, so after 65.000.000 years ago
Mexico already lost half of its land mass. So, after 1860s
„H-hey there, y-you doing anything later? I was thinking about getting drinks. Oh–you don’t do that? Yeah, sorry, I should have known…“
Well I tried, and blew it.
It seems strange to me that Belize appears as part of Mexico
sometime after Napoleon because Spain lost these colonies idk about these countries though I don’t really bother to learn post colonial states
My estimate is 1960s, as Alaska joined the Union in 1959
Since recent hub bub, i never really noticed how maps of the Americas are inconsistent in how they show Greenland. This one obviously has it. Others don’t include it.
2035 😏
Since most of southern Ontario is owned by the states I have no idea.
The style is similar to the Damascus Atlas of 1957, so it might be made by the same artists or is a reproduction of the original work.
(i asked ai)
You want to “date” it because it’s in Arabic? Come on man
Prior to 1966
Thats when guyana got independence from britain
It’s a 50’s map because there’s no Brasilia and Newfoundland is Canadian
It is surprisingly readable, for the most part