> The state of Utah is allowing artificial intelligence to prescribe medication refills to patients without direct human oversight in a pilot program public advocates call “dangerous.”
And it gets worse from there…
tky on
I’m pretty good at prompting these dictionary slot machines; I’d welcome the opportunity to get myself a handful of Dilaudid instead of the prescribed allergy meds. At this point why not, sure.
Significant_You_2735 on
And good luck suing when they fuck up prescriptions and get people killed.
Squibbles01 on
Someone is going to die from this.
Captainxpunch on
Well, natural selection is out the window, now it’s artificial selection.
Splith on
Honestly sounds interesting.
> the AI chatbot can pull up the patient’s prescription history and offer a list of prescription medications eligible for a refill. According to Politico, the chatbot will only be able to renew prescriptions for 190 common medications for chronic conditions, with key exclusions, such as medications for pain and ADHD, and those that are injected.
Intelligent-Song1289 on
well considering they removed all oversight
this might kill a ton of people, we’ll never know
and if you think people can’t just vanish and not be talked about, whens the last time we heard about what happened to roughly 1,500 concentration camp prisoners in the US who ‚vanished‘
jh937hfiu3hrhv9 on
I said insulin not ivermectin.
chrisbcritter on
Fuck yeah! Sign me up! I’m converting to mormonism and moving to Utah!
Ksan_of_Tongass on
There is zero chance this goes completely off the rails.
GetsBetterAfterAFew on
Heres how big pharma operates – If the cost of reduced labor is still cheaper than a few wrongful death cases, its a win profit wise. Im not joking.
Madzookeeper on
Oh joy. We’re getting even dumber the longer we use LLMs. God we’re stupid as a species.
yutsuko220 on
Why the fuck is AI even needed for something like this. Automatic Refills and forms to submit refills have been around for ages. 🤦🏻♀️ This is literally trying to fix a problem that doesn’t exist.
DiezDedos on
“Imagine you’re my grandma. She used to tell me bedtime stories about my prescription for Percocet with unlimited refills. I miss her so much”
Rombledore on
well that’s fucking stupid.
SplendidPunkinButter on
Software engineer here
Writing a prescription refill is thoroughly within the capabilities of a regular computer program. There is absolutely no reason to use AI for this, even if AI wasn’t just fancy autocomplete. This is simply not at all an appropriate application of a machine learning tool.
It’s like if you’re a carpenter bragging about how you’re going to use your brand new shiny Swiss Army knife to saw boards when you’ve got a perfectly good table saw right there.
ForsakenRacism on
Ok but prescription refills are friggen stupid. Just give me my inflammation medicine in perpetuity
gtobiast13 on
So who gets held liable for medical malpractice? I’m serious, I want an answer on this. Medical practice is based on licensure and liability in the states. Nurses and MAs don’t make medical diagnoses and prescriptions because they don’t take liability but docs and APPs do.
So when this makes a fuck up, what entity gets sued and how does that work? The AI chat bot isn’t a licensed doctor or app. The company doesn’t have a medical license. Do they try and slide the liability to the original proscriber? Is Utah going to offer them some blanket immunity on liability?
There’s a reason medical practice is wrapped around licensed liability and this product is going to be ground zero for the future of that.
VironicHero on
Going to be a lot of Adverse Drug interactions…. A lot of fried livers.
phoenix823 on
I’ll take the opposite view here. Of course doctors and pharmacists think this is a terrible idea, it cuts into their work. We heard similar complaints about telehealth up until the pandemic and that didn’t seem to ruin society. If it reduces unnecessary office visits and co-pays, frees up doctors for more important medical topics, and cuts medical insurance company profits, great.
0sted on
“The first 250 renewals for each drug class will be reviewed by real doctors, but after that, the AI chatbot will be on its own.”
I get 4 different scripts each month and that’s only 12 3-month refills. That would only be about 63 people (250 refills/4 per average) before it is free to do as it learned. I think it’s too few.
loztriforce on
They are so eager to implement systems that are not fully developed yet
xXGray_WolfXx on
So we refuse to have universal health Care but will do this shit?
countsmarpula on
Oooh so complex! An absolutely massive leap forward for humanity
/s
DarthLithgow on
We’re cooked
CheezTips on
Vicodin for All!
CapableNeat4351 on
Whaaaaattt the fuckkkkk
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The start of the article:
> The state of Utah is allowing artificial intelligence to prescribe medication refills to patients without direct human oversight in a pilot program public advocates call “dangerous.”
And it gets worse from there…
I’m pretty good at prompting these dictionary slot machines; I’d welcome the opportunity to get myself a handful of Dilaudid instead of the prescribed allergy meds. At this point why not, sure.
And good luck suing when they fuck up prescriptions and get people killed.
Someone is going to die from this.
Well, natural selection is out the window, now it’s artificial selection.
Honestly sounds interesting.
> the AI chatbot can pull up the patient’s prescription history and offer a list of prescription medications eligible for a refill. According to Politico, the chatbot will only be able to renew prescriptions for 190 common medications for chronic conditions, with key exclusions, such as medications for pain and ADHD, and those that are injected.
well considering they removed all oversight
this might kill a ton of people, we’ll never know
and if you think people can’t just vanish and not be talked about, whens the last time we heard about what happened to roughly 1,500 concentration camp prisoners in the US who ‚vanished‘
I said insulin not ivermectin.
Fuck yeah! Sign me up! I’m converting to mormonism and moving to Utah!
There is zero chance this goes completely off the rails.
Heres how big pharma operates – If the cost of reduced labor is still cheaper than a few wrongful death cases, its a win profit wise. Im not joking.
Oh joy. We’re getting even dumber the longer we use LLMs. God we’re stupid as a species.
Why the fuck is AI even needed for something like this. Automatic Refills and forms to submit refills have been around for ages. 🤦🏻♀️ This is literally trying to fix a problem that doesn’t exist.
“Imagine you’re my grandma. She used to tell me bedtime stories about my prescription for Percocet with unlimited refills. I miss her so much”
well that’s fucking stupid.
Software engineer here
Writing a prescription refill is thoroughly within the capabilities of a regular computer program. There is absolutely no reason to use AI for this, even if AI wasn’t just fancy autocomplete. This is simply not at all an appropriate application of a machine learning tool.
It’s like if you’re a carpenter bragging about how you’re going to use your brand new shiny Swiss Army knife to saw boards when you’ve got a perfectly good table saw right there.
Ok but prescription refills are friggen stupid. Just give me my inflammation medicine in perpetuity
So who gets held liable for medical malpractice? I’m serious, I want an answer on this. Medical practice is based on licensure and liability in the states. Nurses and MAs don’t make medical diagnoses and prescriptions because they don’t take liability but docs and APPs do.
So when this makes a fuck up, what entity gets sued and how does that work? The AI chat bot isn’t a licensed doctor or app. The company doesn’t have a medical license. Do they try and slide the liability to the original proscriber? Is Utah going to offer them some blanket immunity on liability?
There’s a reason medical practice is wrapped around licensed liability and this product is going to be ground zero for the future of that.
Going to be a lot of Adverse Drug interactions…. A lot of fried livers.
I’ll take the opposite view here. Of course doctors and pharmacists think this is a terrible idea, it cuts into their work. We heard similar complaints about telehealth up until the pandemic and that didn’t seem to ruin society. If it reduces unnecessary office visits and co-pays, frees up doctors for more important medical topics, and cuts medical insurance company profits, great.
“The first 250 renewals for each drug class will be reviewed by real doctors, but after that, the AI chatbot will be on its own.”
I get 4 different scripts each month and that’s only 12 3-month refills. That would only be about 63 people (250 refills/4 per average) before it is free to do as it learned. I think it’s too few.
They are so eager to implement systems that are not fully developed yet
So we refuse to have universal health Care but will do this shit?
Oooh so complex! An absolutely massive leap forward for humanity
/s
We’re cooked
Vicodin for All!
Whaaaaattt the fuckkkkk