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  1. Best-case scenario is the Donbas becomes another Korea, with an international force enforcing the DMZ.

  2. Jaded-Durian-3917 on

    This is the most meaningless war of all time. Russia will die for this war. Putin will risk collapsing the entire state. The West makes empty promises. Talks about NATO. But is willing to do very little.

    Let the provinces vote. They’ll vote to join Russia. You can’t support democracy only when it benefits you. Let them join. Be done with this.

  3. Arrrchitect on

    Russia will not respect this. They will violate the agreement and put troops in the DMZ anyway, and nobody will be willing to force them out. It will give Russia time to reinforce its defenses and make it more difficult for Ukraine to take back its land.

  4. Blueridge-Badger on

    All of Donbas and Crimea? I hope the return of all those deported to Russia is in there too. Europe needs to step up Putin will not give that.

  5. Farewell-Farewell on

    I really feel sorry for Zelensky. He knows, and We know, that you cannot trust Russia. Any peace treaty will be broken at some stage.

  6. Restore borders to before the crimea annexation. Put the DMZ a few miles deep in the Russian side. 

  7. Is this just appeasing Trump because he knows Putin won’t actually go for it?

  8. cobaltjacket on

    A demilitarized zone makes sense, if it goes 1000km into Russia from all Eastern borders.

  9. spunktastica on

    Can they just include security assurances from someone that would actually jump in ? Poland was pretty excitable when all this started. 

  10. Opening-Border-6313 on

    A DMZ wouldnt mean any Russian troops/administrators/police there right? Like an internationally controlled zone if I understand this right

  11. Many redditors seem to mistakingly think Ukraine is winning this war.

    I’ll take the downvotes for not seeing the emperor’s new clothes.

  12. This proposal would be a good one for 2022. It’s almost 2026 now, and it’s a disgusting proposal that is as disconnected from reality on the battlefield as possible.

  13. Putin has to have Donetsk – he will lose too much face if he doesn’t get it…

    He won’t get it without taking it by force, and so the stalemate continues.

    Trumpin is restricting support, Europe has to step up.

  14. ScoobyD00BIEdoo on

    I remember week one of this where someone posted satellite imagery that showed Russia was storing tons of military vehicles in multiple places along the Ukranian boarder

  15. Retirednypd on

    Im sorry to say this, but this is not going to end well. Russia will take all of Ukraine, even if it takes years. And before anyone says that it’s taken him years to only make small progress… while true, he will up the game, so to speak, sadly.

  16. JoopahTroopah on

    Zelenskyy knows that Russia will not accept this and is just trying to make it clearer for the thicker members of the international community that Russia just wants the land.

    The only “demilitarised” area Russia accept is on land currently held by Ukraine, so Russia can come up with another BS cassus belli, zerg rush the land and occupy that too.

  17. ihavenoidea12345678 on

    Sure Demilitarize the following:

    Krasnodar
    Rostov
    Voronezh
    Kursk
    Bryansk

    Get the military out of there, should be good.

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