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    1. It feels like Japan just wants people to prove they’re serious about staying. Ten years is a long time though, especially when you’re already living and paying taxes there.

    2. scrotalsmoothie on

      It’s an interesting move. Would like to hear the conversation of why when they face serious population erosion.

    3. are they doing what’s in the interest of Japan or a particular Japanese ideology? because it’s it’s not the same thing. for example South Korea can’t/shouldn’t do this. and Japan isn’t far behind on the list of countries for which the same reason applies..an existential threat of a rapidly ageing tax base.

    4. Why are they so scared of foreigners when, without immigration, there’s a good chance Japan will cease to exist in a couple decades?

    5. Ok-Print3260 on

      citizenship already wasn’t attractive because they don’t recognize dual nationality, and PR – the far more attractive option for people planning to live in japan long term – already took 10 years.

      so whatever, they just made something already unattractive into something prohibitive and unattractive, and made PR even more unattractive since they can revoke it based on retroactive behavior now.

      good job, japan – make sure you attract only the most poor and desperate immigrants and create a self-fulfilling prophecy about immigrants being poor criminals because you scared off all the good ones with weird racism-informed policies like this.

    6. Good move for national security. Good for maintaining cultural excellency.

      But with no complimentary policies to increase the country’s low birth rates, it’s only going to make the life harder for future generations.

    7. zapdoszaperson on

      Japan has a serious issue with rural depopulation and a massive aging population and low birth rate. If anything they should be lessening requirements

    8. I heard that Japan’s population was really exploding, this makes total sense 😳

    9. wwchickendinner on

      Reduce working hours. This will increase productivity because workload won’t change and you just gotta get it done in the timeframe.

      Equals productivity in the real world.

      Zero impact on the metrics, but natural population growth will increase significantly as a result (relative to current levels).

      Ya gotta let romance play out big gov.

    10. PsychologicalCrab411 on

      lol imagine living with massive restrictions on everything possible for 10 years just for the opportunity to become a citizen. They don’t want you there. It’s fairly obvious from the requirements and restrictions on non citizens

      Would love to visit and see their nature but I have zero interest in living in a place I’m not welcome.

    11. I know they say Japan is in a “population crisis” but I mean, I think there problems aren’t population numbers. Japan has 123 million people, 34 million-ish of which live in the greater Tokyo area (14 million in the city proper).
      For perspective New Zealand is technically 40% smaller than the whole of Japan with a population of 5.5 million people. 3x the population in just one city is fucking wild, imagine trying to interact and meet people/perspective partners in what is essentially a massive cluster fuck of people. Japan should incentivise spreading out the population to the rest of the country, they have great transport systems already in place. Rolling out upgrades to services outside of cities and incentivising people out of cities and things such as reduced period on citizenship etc for living in said towns would probably solve a lot of their issues.

    12. I was just about to leave for.japan and start enjoying the grueling work life balance there….

      Drats!

    13. Voodoo_Masta on

      Our population is collapsing! Quick! What do we do! I have an idea sir, here hold my sake while I present my plan…

    14. I’ve heard so many stories about foreigners in Japan speaking Japanese and people pretending not to understand them. And once again we see a country is willing to do anything but improve the standard of living. Kicking the can down the road

    15. beatthedookieup on

      I have an old Chinese friend who applied to become a citizen after being there for 5 years, but my ex said that he spent majority of 2023-24 submitting paperwork because the process was that tedious.

    16. WeeklyPhilosopher346 on

      For comparison’s sake;

      France – 5 years continuous residence (2 if you complete higher education there)

      Germany – 5 years legal residence (2 for marrying a citizen or “outstanding integration” – includes passing financial years, German language tests and civics tests)

      UK – 5 years with specific limits on time spent abroad (max 90 days in the last year and max 450 days total) or 3 years for marrying a citizen (which also reduces days abroad to 270)

      Italy – 10 years for non-EU citizens, 4 years for EU citizens, 3 years for those of Italian descent or who were born in Italy, 5 years for refugees

      US – 5 years *after* getting your Green Card or 3 years after getting it. Getting the card itself can often add 1 to many years to this depending on path taken

    17. Why do I always hear about population decline fears? If this is your immigration policy don’t expect any sympathy.

    18. Super_Mario_Luigi on

      There is a big push worldwide against immigration. We all know the leftist speaking points that you must comply with mass immigration or die. Shockingly, not everyone has the same goals. Not everyone wants to import mass quantities of people who don’t share the same values, language, or cultures because they want cheap agriculture or increasing real estate values. It’s easy to sling mud from your cushy, ivory towers, but is a real concern.

      If you look at housing costs and crime alone in any area with mass immigration (let alone the complete cultural shift of any norms), the results have not been ideal. I do not foresee birth rates changing anytime soon. I’d bet we see more of a solve through AI more than anything else.

    19. wnted_dread_or_alive on

      Somehow they avoid all the epithets that get assigned to other particular nations when they pursue the same policies, strange.

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