Japan beabsichtigt, Japanischkenntnisse zu den Anforderungen für einen dauerhaften Wohnsitz hinzuzufügen, da es einen Anstieg künftiger Bewerber erwartet
Japan beabsichtigt, Japanischkenntnisse zu den Anforderungen für einen dauerhaften Wohnsitz hinzuzufügen, da es einen Anstieg künftiger Bewerber erwartet
It makes sense to me. Proficiency doesn’t take years, it takes an earnest effort and interest.
waterjaguar on
domo arigato
MrX101 on
why wasn’t it already a requirement?
Onehundredyearsold on
Makes you wonder why it is considered racist to require English proficiency in the USA.
namotous on
Common sense
Kind_Focus5839 on
Sure, what level?
it_just_works1 on
being able to speak the language of the country you want to migrate to should be a basic requirement. This also helps to prevent economic leeches from coming there
WrongHomework7916 on
Learn English or leave USA 😡😤🤬👎🏻
Learn Japanese or leave Japan 🌸🥰🌺👍🏻
thegooddoktorjones on
Anything to double and triple down on the demographic problems.
Bevrykul on
Honestly? That is a fair requirement.
Ok-Medium-6809 on
Who wouldn’t you want to learn the language of the country you’re permanently migrating to?
No-Island-5591 on
Vive La Quebec Libre!
No-Land-7389 on
Say this about America and English and all of a sudden your a bigot.
giantroboticcat on
A country with a birth rate nearly half the replacement rate probably shouldn’t be making immigration harder…
HeyItsMeMrBoss on
I’m surprised with how culturally seclusive Japan is, that this wasn’t already a thing.
At the same time, I don’t really think without a proper pathway, Japan is doing anything more than yelling at a cloud and blaming foreigners for problems. They’re losing population.
Given the circumstances, they should know better just from looking at us in America.
motherseffinjones on
I can understand why they would want that
Ctka00 on
Seems like something that should have been a requirement already. If you cannot understand signs or emergency warnings in a country, you probably shouldn’t be there especially to live there long term.
skumancer on
Italy did the same. I think it’s fine
Foreign_Recipe8300 on
let’s make it harder for people to come here says country facing a population decline „crisis“
SgtNeilDiamond on
Shouldn’t be a conservative opinions imo. If you want to move to another country and you arent seeking asylum, then the bare minimum should be speaking their language.
hyperblaster on
Mostly like these rules, but ten years to get permanent residency is quite high. Five years is much more reasonable.
andoke on
We in Canada require proficiency in English or French for Permanent Residency as well. Not something unusual.
Silent_Credit_5701 on
Japanese is hard so it will be a good filter.
aro-n on
Okay, people.
If you are desperately in need of foreign workers and constantly complaining about your shrinking workforce and dying towns, and if foreigners have married into your culture or have been living and working—paying taxes into your dying country—then you really shouldn’t give a shit about the language.
Most foreigners can get by with daily Japanese. You don’t need N1 to order McDonald’s and do construction. 60% of foreigners in Japan are in food service, construction, hospitality, child and elderly care and other jobs Japanese won’t do because the pay is shit.
You don’t get to beg workers to come to Japan, pay them shit, and then treat them like shit, and expect them to keep coming.
Japanese is one of the hardest languages in the world. Many Japanese people even get N1 questions wrong.
And, finally, we all know this is cowtowing to anti-foreigner resentment. They are trying to make it as hard as possible to live in the country to look tough on immigration, but they still want poor SEA people and gullible Westerners to come, build their roads and take care of their aging population and raise their children in eikawas for shit pay for a few years and kick them out.
Does it make sense now why this is bullshit?
inception900 on
Sounds Good to me it makes perfect sense
utterscrub on
Is this controversial?
happy-cig on
Imagine if USA did this… Would get butt fucked by the whole world. Double standards for the win.
vagabond_nerd on
I lived there for awhile. It’s an extremely complex language with three variations of the alphabet and formal/informal ways of saying nearly everything. For everyone saying “why didn’t they do it already?” Lots of caretakers and ESL teachers marry Japanese citizens then wish to become permanent residents later on. They may not be completely fluent but can get by day to day just fine even doing paperwork and such. But you can be assured, whatever test they designed for this would be incredibly difficult for most people that are not Japanese language experts.
The reality is their country like many right now are shifting to an anti-immigrant stance because the economy is not doing well and the elderly politicians don’t offer real solutions. They find a fake solution like “blame the foreigners.” Look at the patterns of history, scapegoats are usually the least powerful and an easy propaganda tool especially in times of economic hardship where the greediest at the top are typically to blame. I love Japan but the far-right party there has gained more seats recently so these new policies aren’t a surprise.
DMercenary on
It.. .Wasnt already?
DornishFox on
I live in Japan and speak Japanese in my work every day. I have no problem with this in theory. Currently there is no easy way to evaluate „Japanese language proficiency“. There are a variety of tests/exams you can take but none of them evaluate speaking ability which is arguably the most important skill in my opinion. Implementing this requirement without having a clear path to test proficiency doesn’t make sense so I hope that if it gets implemented they clarify and don’t just leave it to random chance (like how 1-5 years visas are currently given out with zero transparency).
sirchuc on
Makes sense.
Subaru10101 on
Yeah if you live long term in a country, you should know the language enough that you can converse, read, and write in it proficiently.
Acerhand on
I don’t disagree with this at all.. as long as its N3 or so. Thats definitely enough for people to get by and understand culture enough without being unreasonable
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Makes sense
It makes sense to me. Proficiency doesn’t take years, it takes an earnest effort and interest.
domo arigato
why wasn’t it already a requirement?
Makes you wonder why it is considered racist to require English proficiency in the USA.
Common sense
Sure, what level?
being able to speak the language of the country you want to migrate to should be a basic requirement. This also helps to prevent economic leeches from coming there
Learn English or leave USA 😡😤🤬👎🏻
Learn Japanese or leave Japan 🌸🥰🌺👍🏻
Anything to double and triple down on the demographic problems.
Honestly? That is a fair requirement.
Who wouldn’t you want to learn the language of the country you’re permanently migrating to?
Vive La Quebec Libre!
Say this about America and English and all of a sudden your a bigot.
A country with a birth rate nearly half the replacement rate probably shouldn’t be making immigration harder…
I’m surprised with how culturally seclusive Japan is, that this wasn’t already a thing.
At the same time, I don’t really think without a proper pathway, Japan is doing anything more than yelling at a cloud and blaming foreigners for problems. They’re losing population.
Given the circumstances, they should know better just from looking at us in America.
I can understand why they would want that
Seems like something that should have been a requirement already. If you cannot understand signs or emergency warnings in a country, you probably shouldn’t be there especially to live there long term.
Italy did the same. I think it’s fine
let’s make it harder for people to come here says country facing a population decline „crisis“
Shouldn’t be a conservative opinions imo. If you want to move to another country and you arent seeking asylum, then the bare minimum should be speaking their language.
Mostly like these rules, but ten years to get permanent residency is quite high. Five years is much more reasonable.
We in Canada require proficiency in English or French for Permanent Residency as well. Not something unusual.
Japanese is hard so it will be a good filter.
Okay, people.
If you are desperately in need of foreign workers and constantly complaining about your shrinking workforce and dying towns, and if foreigners have married into your culture or have been living and working—paying taxes into your dying country—then you really shouldn’t give a shit about the language.
Most foreigners can get by with daily Japanese. You don’t need N1 to order McDonald’s and do construction. 60% of foreigners in Japan are in food service, construction, hospitality, child and elderly care and other jobs Japanese won’t do because the pay is shit.
You don’t get to beg workers to come to Japan, pay them shit, and then treat them like shit, and expect them to keep coming.
Japanese is one of the hardest languages in the world. Many Japanese people even get N1 questions wrong.
And, finally, we all know this is cowtowing to anti-foreigner resentment. They are trying to make it as hard as possible to live in the country to look tough on immigration, but they still want poor SEA people and gullible Westerners to come, build their roads and take care of their aging population and raise their children in eikawas for shit pay for a few years and kick them out.
Does it make sense now why this is bullshit?
Sounds Good to me it makes perfect sense
Is this controversial?
Imagine if USA did this… Would get butt fucked by the whole world. Double standards for the win.
I lived there for awhile. It’s an extremely complex language with three variations of the alphabet and formal/informal ways of saying nearly everything. For everyone saying “why didn’t they do it already?” Lots of caretakers and ESL teachers marry Japanese citizens then wish to become permanent residents later on. They may not be completely fluent but can get by day to day just fine even doing paperwork and such. But you can be assured, whatever test they designed for this would be incredibly difficult for most people that are not Japanese language experts.
The reality is their country like many right now are shifting to an anti-immigrant stance because the economy is not doing well and the elderly politicians don’t offer real solutions. They find a fake solution like “blame the foreigners.” Look at the patterns of history, scapegoats are usually the least powerful and an easy propaganda tool especially in times of economic hardship where the greediest at the top are typically to blame. I love Japan but the far-right party there has gained more seats recently so these new policies aren’t a surprise.
It.. .Wasnt already?
I live in Japan and speak Japanese in my work every day. I have no problem with this in theory. Currently there is no easy way to evaluate „Japanese language proficiency“. There are a variety of tests/exams you can take but none of them evaluate speaking ability which is arguably the most important skill in my opinion. Implementing this requirement without having a clear path to test proficiency doesn’t make sense so I hope that if it gets implemented they clarify and don’t just leave it to random chance (like how 1-5 years visas are currently given out with zero transparency).
Makes sense.
Yeah if you live long term in a country, you should know the language enough that you can converse, read, and write in it proficiently.
I don’t disagree with this at all.. as long as its N3 or so. Thats definitely enough for people to get by and understand culture enough without being unreasonable