The weird thing where tech companies and writers assume most people actually upgrade their personal Windows PC, and not just keep whatever version they have until they get their next PC. Most of those PCs will never upgrade, they will be replaced at one point.
Dean403 on
Lucky folks. Windows 11 has seriously slowed down my high end gaming PC
b_a_t_m_4_n on
MS busy generating a mountain of e-waste.
Bergniez on
keep your windows 10…. It’s not as hard coded to allow future ai trash integration.
graesen on
Let’s not forget the fact a lot of PC components to upgrade have gone way up in price and fewer people use PCs than ever or use them often enough to care.
rubink on
I upgraded from Windows 10…to Ubuntu Linux and am mighty happy. The HW couldn’t support 11 , 10 is really not fully supported anymore, and I don’t need to buy a new PC.
No_Doubt_About_That on
*Half are said by Microsoft to be too old to upgrade
FleshLogic on
There is only reasons *not* to upgrade. My workplace forced it onto our office machines and everyone has seen significant performance decreases. Add in their unwanted AI and privacy violating „features“ and I don’t see how anyone voluntarily chooses this shitbox.
ThePlasticSturgeons on
Up until recently I had one that was too old to upgrade. That wasn’t really a deciding factor in building a new PC though. I needed to be able to install more RAM for the things I want to do, and I was hardware limited.
Evening_Suggestion_2 on
I downgraded mine because of the AI bullshit. Waiting for Steam OS to gain popularity, it’s so amazing on the Deck.
420_69_Fake_Account on
The crazy thing is my old Pc works and I’m supposed to buy a new one because the OS needs an upgrade…
ARazorbacks on
Too old to update and still working great for their use case. What more is there to say?
The only people who want to upgrade are the C-suite at Microsoft.
ux3l on
Only half of them? I know Windows 11 sucks, but I wouldn’t have expected that.
kon--- on
10 till it breaks then shopping the best non-windows system that works for me.
wensul on
To hell with Windows 11.
I DO NOT WANT TO UPGRADE.
Friggin_Grease on
I’ll upgrade when my system dies.
Tex-Rob on
It’s a tale as old as Microsoft. Windows 95, great, ME horrible, XP great, Vista horrible, 7 great, 8 horrible, then they skip 9, and 10 is good. I could do the server breakdown too, but the story there is weirder and most of them eventually get decent, because the tale of server OSes is, get it when R2 launches. There are some doozies though, like 2012 non R2 has something fundamentally wrong with the network stack.
Microsoft is about to find out how easy it is for us to abandon their OS in 2025.
cazzipropri on
And the problem is?
HLef on
“Too old” is a loose definition for a bunch of those
Turbo_Baggins on
I went to upgrade my old laptop from 2017 to 11 recently.. and found the disk drive had given out. That’s one way to save me some effort apparently
goldfaux on
Shit is too expensive to replace perfectly good hardware. I usually build PCs with the beat CPU at the time. Then use it for 5 to 10 years. Lately the hardware is so good that there is no need to replace it for the next 10 to 15 years. My last build was ryzen 5950x around covid. I don’t see myself replacing it for another 5 to 7 years. It runs everything quickly.
Ant_Cardiologist on
I love how they wait for an economic depression to shove that unnecessary shite down our throats. One billion is a number too large to even contemplate, but MS knows best. Talk about out of touch with reality.
femboyisbestboy on
Doesn’t help that spy11 takes 15% of your CPU
Gloriathewitch on
let me introduce you to my little friend: ubuntu. great for old hardware
epanek on
I think Windows 11 requires some „trusted“ thing in BIOS?
CopiousCool on
It’s a Hacker’s wet dream
Jristz on
They warned MS about this and they just say „buy another one“…
Mal-De-Terre on
But none are too old for linux!
Psychostickusername on
If it ain’t broken don’t fix it.
Ms: oh what a coincidence we think it’s broken now… Jeez, upgrade?
TheMatrixRedPill on
I’ve for an older Dell Inspiron 5520 with an Intel Core i5-3210M, with maxed out RAM and an SSD which I bought in 2012. It came with Windows 7, and it qualified for Windows 10.
The machine does everything I need it to do, and still holds up very well. Is it a speed demon, absolutely not. However, I think that it still has a lot of life left in it for basic stuff. This planned obsolescence shit is for the birds.
usmannaeem on
Journos needs to stop chasing who likes or dislikes operating systems. It’s a personal choice. This beat got really old, really fast.
rekd0514 on
Just use regedit to bypass the requirements if you really want to upgrade.
Alert-Homework-7325 on
doesn’t help that windows 11 is garbage
retrocheats on
if I get a new computer, I plan on seeing if I can just transfer my windows 10 to it
pgtl_10 on
What this says, is that people really don’t care about upgrading their work and streaming machine.
bucketman1986 on
I can upgrade both my laptop and my PC. I refuse. I don’t want or need an these new „features“ in 11
phate_exe on
I feel like basically any midrange or higher PC made in the last decade or so has been „good enough“ for your basic web browsing/streaming media/office tasks.
I had to pull some files off an old laptop with a 2nd or 3rd gen i5 dual core recently, and honestly it felt *fine*. Obviously not as fast as the Ryzen 2500U laptop that replaced it or the Ryzen 7840U laptop I have now, but the user experience was far from terrible. Pretty much the only reason it’s not still seeing use as a spare PC is because Asus decided it should charge via a tiny and fragile barrel plug that likes to break if you look at it the wrong way.
I could easily see someone with more basic computer needs/wants running an old computer like that as long as the battery still holds a charge, regardless of whether Microsoft says they need to upgrade or not.
PJMFett on
This is the future. Holding onto your car your phone your home as long as you financially can because it costs so much more to replace them with zero actual improvements.
Rurumo666 on
Microsoft should have to pay through the nose for the E-waste apocalypse they’re causing.
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I just hope the new Steam Machine can run Bf6
The weird thing where tech companies and writers assume most people actually upgrade their personal Windows PC, and not just keep whatever version they have until they get their next PC. Most of those PCs will never upgrade, they will be replaced at one point.
Lucky folks. Windows 11 has seriously slowed down my high end gaming PC
MS busy generating a mountain of e-waste.
keep your windows 10…. It’s not as hard coded to allow future ai trash integration.
Let’s not forget the fact a lot of PC components to upgrade have gone way up in price and fewer people use PCs than ever or use them often enough to care.
I upgraded from Windows 10…to Ubuntu Linux and am mighty happy. The HW couldn’t support 11 , 10 is really not fully supported anymore, and I don’t need to buy a new PC.
*Half are said by Microsoft to be too old to upgrade
There is only reasons *not* to upgrade. My workplace forced it onto our office machines and everyone has seen significant performance decreases. Add in their unwanted AI and privacy violating „features“ and I don’t see how anyone voluntarily chooses this shitbox.
Up until recently I had one that was too old to upgrade. That wasn’t really a deciding factor in building a new PC though. I needed to be able to install more RAM for the things I want to do, and I was hardware limited.
I downgraded mine because of the AI bullshit. Waiting for Steam OS to gain popularity, it’s so amazing on the Deck.
The crazy thing is my old Pc works and I’m supposed to buy a new one because the OS needs an upgrade…
Too old to update and still working great for their use case. What more is there to say?
The only people who want to upgrade are the C-suite at Microsoft.
Only half of them? I know Windows 11 sucks, but I wouldn’t have expected that.
10 till it breaks then shopping the best non-windows system that works for me.
To hell with Windows 11.
I DO NOT WANT TO UPGRADE.
I’ll upgrade when my system dies.
It’s a tale as old as Microsoft. Windows 95, great, ME horrible, XP great, Vista horrible, 7 great, 8 horrible, then they skip 9, and 10 is good. I could do the server breakdown too, but the story there is weirder and most of them eventually get decent, because the tale of server OSes is, get it when R2 launches. There are some doozies though, like 2012 non R2 has something fundamentally wrong with the network stack.
Microsoft is about to find out how easy it is for us to abandon their OS in 2025.
And the problem is?
“Too old” is a loose definition for a bunch of those
I went to upgrade my old laptop from 2017 to 11 recently.. and found the disk drive had given out. That’s one way to save me some effort apparently
Shit is too expensive to replace perfectly good hardware. I usually build PCs with the beat CPU at the time. Then use it for 5 to 10 years. Lately the hardware is so good that there is no need to replace it for the next 10 to 15 years. My last build was ryzen 5950x around covid. I don’t see myself replacing it for another 5 to 7 years. It runs everything quickly.
I love how they wait for an economic depression to shove that unnecessary shite down our throats. One billion is a number too large to even contemplate, but MS knows best. Talk about out of touch with reality.
Doesn’t help that spy11 takes 15% of your CPU
let me introduce you to my little friend: ubuntu. great for old hardware
I think Windows 11 requires some „trusted“ thing in BIOS?
It’s a Hacker’s wet dream
They warned MS about this and they just say „buy another one“…
But none are too old for linux!
If it ain’t broken don’t fix it.
Ms: oh what a coincidence we think it’s broken now… Jeez, upgrade?
I’ve for an older Dell Inspiron 5520 with an Intel Core i5-3210M, with maxed out RAM and an SSD which I bought in 2012. It came with Windows 7, and it qualified for Windows 10.
The machine does everything I need it to do, and still holds up very well. Is it a speed demon, absolutely not. However, I think that it still has a lot of life left in it for basic stuff. This planned obsolescence shit is for the birds.
Journos needs to stop chasing who likes or dislikes operating systems. It’s a personal choice. This beat got really old, really fast.
Just use regedit to bypass the requirements if you really want to upgrade.
doesn’t help that windows 11 is garbage
if I get a new computer, I plan on seeing if I can just transfer my windows 10 to it
What this says, is that people really don’t care about upgrading their work and streaming machine.
I can upgrade both my laptop and my PC. I refuse. I don’t want or need an these new „features“ in 11
I feel like basically any midrange or higher PC made in the last decade or so has been „good enough“ for your basic web browsing/streaming media/office tasks.
I had to pull some files off an old laptop with a 2nd or 3rd gen i5 dual core recently, and honestly it felt *fine*. Obviously not as fast as the Ryzen 2500U laptop that replaced it or the Ryzen 7840U laptop I have now, but the user experience was far from terrible. Pretty much the only reason it’s not still seeing use as a spare PC is because Asus decided it should charge via a tiny and fragile barrel plug that likes to break if you look at it the wrong way.
I could easily see someone with more basic computer needs/wants running an old computer like that as long as the battery still holds a charge, regardless of whether Microsoft says they need to upgrade or not.
This is the future. Holding onto your car your phone your home as long as you financially can because it costs so much more to replace them with zero actual improvements.
Microsoft should have to pay through the nose for the E-waste apocalypse they’re causing.