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  1. AFAIK this was the council vote and not the parliament vote. Germany being against Chat Control was related to German MPs‘ stances on the issue and not to the German governement. The parliament is yet to vote on this resolution.

  2. Vast_Security_469 on

    Because the politicians are afraid of its people and the temptation to control the chats is irresistible.

    Its a sad day.

  3. German polititians are split pretty evenly, so flip-flopping is to be expected. At the same time, many polititians play with the publics attention span, failing a law just to pass it in the second try while „it failed“ is still on everyones mind.

  4. logical_psych_o on

    EU laws were supposed to be something that people in every country could yearn to have.

    But unfortunately, every country just wants to selfishly control their people.

  5. How is swapping from „undecided“ to „in favour“ „changing the idea“ about anything?

    The current majority leading party was always in favour but they had to argue with their coalition. And it still is completely in limbo if such a law could even be ratified here, because it would require a changing of the „basic law“ which needs a 2/3 majority vote. No matter how the German representative in the EU parliament votes.

  6. Skygge_or_Skov on

    Cause the conservative government thinks the discussion about it is out of public discourse, so now they can vote for their beloved mass surveillance again instead of presenting themselves as defenders of its citizens privacy.

  7. FloppyGhost0815 on

    They did not. If you follow closely they voted for a change of the orignial proposal.

    And basically that says “ no mandatory chat control“

  8. Moistest_Postone on

    Nothing about this is democratic. it is the opinion of our buerocrats and technocrats, not of the people. not in germany, not anywhere else.

  9. Testosteron123 on

    CDU/SPD is and was always pro monitoring the citizens, so i dont know where this stuff with germany would be against it come from, maybe lower local politicans who still are in touch with citizens might be against it but not the top brass.

    Just look in the past:
    [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugangserschwerungsgesetz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugangserschwerungsgesetz)

    [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act)

    Some police uses US Palantir Software Gotham, and CDU wants to use it in the whole country

  10. BrennanBetelgeuse on

    This law is such an insult to European citizens, it might just be the beginning of the end of the EU.
    If they legistlate like this, my will to defend the EU against Brexit-types will erode with every law.
    I would of course prefer a reform of the EU to make it truly democratic, but if they move in the opposite direction, it might just be time to end the experiment for good.

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