* Former military lawyer Todd Huntley, director of the national security law program at Georgetown Law, said a decision to kill all the boat’s helpless passengers “would in essence be an order to show no quarter, which would be a war crime.”
* He told the Post that killing any of the people on the boat “amounts to murder.”
* Chief Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell said the “entire narrative is completely false.”
* He added: “Ongoing operations to dismantle narcoterrorism and to protect the Homeland from deadly drugs have been a resounding success.”
* “They’re breaking the law either way,” Sarah Harrison, a former associate general counsel at the Pentagon, told CNN.
* “They’re killing civilians in the first place, and then if you assume they’re combatants, it’s also unlawful—under the law of armed conflict, if somebody is ‘hors de combat’ and no longer able to fight, then they have to be treated humanely.”
* The U.K. has stopped sharing intelligence about the movements of suspected drug traffickers in the Caribbean because it believes the U.S. military action is illegal.
PurposeConnect3329 on
Prison for Pete, probably
paxwells97 on
He should be sent to the Hague seeing as he committed a war crime
amprather on
The Hague doesn’t give a shit about Pardons.
MoistService2607 on
Law and Order means prosecute murderers.
vox_popul1 on
They haven’t proven it was a drug boat. Stop fucking calling it a drug boat.
smersh101 on
Well, yeah. The entire justification they’re using for these killings is illegal.
CAM6913 on
Service members better smarten up and realize that it is their duty to disobey illegal orders and it doesn’t get any more illegal than following the order to kill survivors, not only is it against US law it’s also against international law and the Genova convention.
ChopperChange on
This is what happens when you put a racist drunk FOX pundit in charge of the military.
Mr_Magoo1969 on
In an ideal world, Whiskey Pete gets detained on his next European junket by a country with a better grasp of international law.
HENMAN79 on
I’m sure Rich people all over the US are still getting their cocaine
FayeGossamer on
Honestly, if even military law experts are calling it murder, then this isn’t some ‘fog of war‘ excuse anymore…it’s straight up accountability time. You can’t preach rule of law globally while ignoring it at home. If commanders can just order follow-up strikes on survivors with Zero consequence, what message does that send?
Ok-Lets-Talk-It-Out on
*Rule 47. Attacking persons who are recognized as hors de combat is prohibited. A person hors de combat is:*
*(a) anyone who is in the power of an adverse party;*
**(b) anyone who is defenceless because of unconsciousness, shipwreck, wounds or sickness; or**
*(c) anyone who clearly expresses an intention to surrender;
provided he or she abstains from any hostile act and does not attempt to escape*
Whiskey Dick Peter is not in ‘peril’. Who’s going to stop him? The orange shit heel?
SoPaw19 on
Sounds like troops are following illegal orders…
RioRancher on
This is probably the reason for warning from Senator Kelly et al to not obey illegal orders.
justbecauseyoumademe on
Doubletapping civilians that have not been convicted of any crimes is by itself a crime against humanity
TyrionBean on
I hate drug gangs, but this is fucking piracy, murder, and crimes against humanity. We literally hung people for this back in the day. There are laws, and our government is acting like the biggest fucking criminal on the high seas. I live abroad, so maybe I shouldn’t speak out of turn, but the fact that we Americans are not literally revolting in the streets with fucking machine guns right now is fucking unbelievable. For a country which encouraged other people to do this in their own tyrranical nations for eighty years, and then to turn around and say that we are not going to do that ourselves is the the biggest fucking hypocrisy I have ever seen. Ever. It is fucking astounding. Every American should be fucking ashamed. I sure the fuck am.
Anishinaapunk on
And MAGA wonders why soldiers have to be reminded not to follow illegal orders.
Iyellkhan on
this would also on its face be an illegal order, meaning everyone involved would be responsible.
that being said, the idea that drugs are somehow arms and these people are combatants is also absurd.
justinpaulson on
And you followed the order to kill them all? This is one of those illegal orders they were talking about.
-squiddycat- on
War Crimes. But we’re not even at war, so is it just mass murder?
Careful-Rent5779 on
Beter that no witnesses survive (/s).
Or course it makes Kelly’s (and others) warnings about not following illegal orders more relavent. Targeting an alleged drug boat is one thing. Killing helpless survivours is another thing entirely. Service persons involved in any follow-up attack are equally cupable.
biskino on
Assassination for some, pardons for others.
It’s looking a lot like your president (who has his own crypto currency) is muscling into the coke game…
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Various snippets: EDITED to add:
*Here is the non paywalled article:* [https://archive.is/20251128210929/https://www.thedailybeast.com/pentagon-pete-in-legal-peril-over-kill-them-all-orders/](https://archive.is/20251128210929/https://www.thedailybeast.com/pentagon-pete-in-legal-peril-over-kill-them-all-orders/)
* Former military lawyer Todd Huntley, director of the national security law program at Georgetown Law, said a decision to kill all the boat’s helpless passengers “would in essence be an order to show no quarter, which would be a war crime.”
* He told the Post that killing any of the people on the boat “amounts to murder.”
* Chief Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell said the “entire narrative is completely false.”
* He added: “Ongoing operations to dismantle narcoterrorism and to protect the Homeland from deadly drugs have been a resounding success.”
* “They’re breaking the law either way,” Sarah Harrison, a former associate general counsel at the Pentagon, told CNN.
* “They’re killing civilians in the first place, and then if you assume they’re combatants, it’s also unlawful—under the law of armed conflict, if somebody is ‘hors de combat’ and no longer able to fight, then they have to be treated humanely.”
* The U.K. has stopped sharing intelligence about the movements of suspected drug traffickers in the Caribbean because it believes the U.S. military action is illegal.
Prison for Pete, probably
He should be sent to the Hague seeing as he committed a war crime
The Hague doesn’t give a shit about Pardons.
Law and Order means prosecute murderers.
They haven’t proven it was a drug boat. Stop fucking calling it a drug boat.
Well, yeah. The entire justification they’re using for these killings is illegal.
Service members better smarten up and realize that it is their duty to disobey illegal orders and it doesn’t get any more illegal than following the order to kill survivors, not only is it against US law it’s also against international law and the Genova convention.
This is what happens when you put a racist drunk FOX pundit in charge of the military.
In an ideal world, Whiskey Pete gets detained on his next European junket by a country with a better grasp of international law.
I’m sure Rich people all over the US are still getting their cocaine
Honestly, if even military law experts are calling it murder, then this isn’t some ‘fog of war‘ excuse anymore…it’s straight up accountability time. You can’t preach rule of law globally while ignoring it at home. If commanders can just order follow-up strikes on survivors with Zero consequence, what message does that send?
*Rule 47. Attacking persons who are recognized as hors de combat is prohibited. A person hors de combat is:*
*(a) anyone who is in the power of an adverse party;*
**(b) anyone who is defenceless because of unconsciousness, shipwreck, wounds or sickness; or**
*(c) anyone who clearly expresses an intention to surrender;
provided he or she abstains from any hostile act and does not attempt to escape*
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule47
Whiskey Dick Peter is not in ‘peril’. Who’s going to stop him? The orange shit heel?
Sounds like troops are following illegal orders…
This is probably the reason for warning from Senator Kelly et al to not obey illegal orders.
Doubletapping civilians that have not been convicted of any crimes is by itself a crime against humanity
I hate drug gangs, but this is fucking piracy, murder, and crimes against humanity. We literally hung people for this back in the day. There are laws, and our government is acting like the biggest fucking criminal on the high seas. I live abroad, so maybe I shouldn’t speak out of turn, but the fact that we Americans are not literally revolting in the streets with fucking machine guns right now is fucking unbelievable. For a country which encouraged other people to do this in their own tyrranical nations for eighty years, and then to turn around and say that we are not going to do that ourselves is the the biggest fucking hypocrisy I have ever seen. Ever. It is fucking astounding. Every American should be fucking ashamed. I sure the fuck am.
And MAGA wonders why soldiers have to be reminded not to follow illegal orders.
this would also on its face be an illegal order, meaning everyone involved would be responsible.
that being said, the idea that drugs are somehow arms and these people are combatants is also absurd.
And you followed the order to kill them all? This is one of those illegal orders they were talking about.
War Crimes. But we’re not even at war, so is it just mass murder?
Beter that no witnesses survive (/s).
Or course it makes Kelly’s (and others) warnings about not following illegal orders more relavent. Targeting an alleged drug boat is one thing. Killing helpless survivours is another thing entirely. Service persons involved in any follow-up attack are equally cupable.
Assassination for some, pardons for others.
It’s looking a lot like your president (who has his own crypto currency) is muscling into the coke game…
https://apnews.com/article/trump-hernandez-honduras-pardon-96ac8d1d44d438f64beb8b24ca54b651
If democrats aren’t standing up and screaming for this goon to get fired and charged with everything, wtf are we doing?
God I cannot wait for this war criminal to spend the rest of his miserable life behind bars
What “legal peril” & from who?! They own the DOJ & decide what the laws are as they go along.