Putin’s Russia is only getting nastier. The political system has become violent and quasi-fascist. The economy is thoroughly mobilized for war. Putin is forging deeper ties with other US adversaries, like China and North Korea. He believes his country is already locked in an existential conflict with “the collective west.”
That struggle will continue, in one form or another, even after the war in Ukraine ends. It may even intensify, as China supports Russia’s below-the-threshold assault.
Chinese meddling in Europe isn’t nearly as aggressive as Putin’s. But Chinese ships have been involved in cable-cutting incidents in the Baltic. Chinese cyberattacks have become more ambitious and more common. Western officials allege a growing symbiosis between Russian and Chinese disinformation campaigns.
Most_Grocery4388 on
People on this sub still thinking China will simp for the EU
haxic on
I’m sure China has been a part of it for a while already
Sad_Text_8178 on
China is bankrolling Russia since the beginning of Ukraine war.
dat_9600gt_user on
„Joining“? You mean they haven’t been already?
Maxmilian_ on
Not like thats been painfully obvious for 2 years already? I guess the messaging, the chauvinism and the actions werent obvious enough?
Cant wait for local sinophiles to suck this regime off again because they now make nice cars or make wind mills. Actual NPCs.
Hot-Wolverine2458 on
Dictatorial regimes will have to put aside differences for the common cause & continued oppression of its people leaving the few to retain power & wealth, these regimes must continue to oppose human rights & freedoms to survive.
sumplookinggai on
This is truly disconcerting. Western European leaders are working restlessly to draft up a strongly worded letter.
Gekkers on
The enemy of my enemy is my friend- China
PandaCheese2016 on
Aside from his opinion, if Kissinger gets to endow a chair I don’t see why lesser war criminals shouldn’t get to.
> Hal Brands (born 1983) is an American columnist and scholar of US foreign policy. He is the Henry A. Kissinger Distinguished Professor of Global Affairs at the School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) at Johns Hopkins University, as well as a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.
DE-NINE_ on
Chinese redditors will deny
flioink on
It isn’t a „shadow“ war.
aphidman on
I mean this isn’t good for Europe but what do you expect? Russia and China aren’t friends but they’re geographic neighbours and closer allies than China and Europe have been since the fall of the Soviet Union.
China’s support of Russia is always going to be a given. What we can hope is they simply remain a sort of supportive role without serious involvement in the war, deploying troops or a full commitment to Ukraine’s utter defeat.
China has less at stake than Europe does so hopefully this keeps Europe’s involvement more detrimental to Russia’s war effort than the other way around.
Wise-Path-9134 on
More likely they are partners in crime since that Olympic Games meeting before 2022. Probably the only thing that went wrong is war in Ukraine. The first stage actually of their plan, lol.
-S-P-E-C-T-R-E- on
China is our enemy? *pikachuface
jschundpeter on
TikTok is China’s strongest weapon. I suppose they have a „Ministry of Mental Enfeeblement of Western Societies“ by now.
TschachGerry on
What do you mean „joining“. China is the mastermind behind that. Russia is just a tool …
Showmethepathplease on
WW3 well under way…
RawDogginYourGrandma on
I’m old enough to remember this same headline two years ago
IndianGolum on
Lol 😂 China is also behind this, last week it was India and Brazil. Looks like the whole world is conspiring 😐 against a few.
AulisG on
China is investing more money to several small countries in Africa – for example Sambia – than they invest in russia.
Sure, China has made „promises“ to invest in russia worth of several hundreds of millions BUT they are all just words for now. About 0,25% of China’s foreign invests are in russia at the moment. Their biggest and direct neighbour. Makes you wonder…
No_Inflation4169 on
Fair fight. Europe and Usa versus Russia and China! I want to livein a multipolar world
No-Tension7016 on
Bloomberg is American propaganda
bk171219 on
I think the heading should be opposite, Russia finally joined China against Europe.
Same_Common4485 on
Trump salivating to join China and Russia for a coordinated attack on a vulnerable and slow Europe that doesn’t have a real army to speak of
DankeSebVettel on
Welcome to things we have know. For many a year
BHASKARROYAL on
It was already part of war since the start
PanickyFool on
Tarrifs on China when?
Bogus007 on
AFAIK a Chinese delegation is coming to visit some European countries. Why not showing them the zoo instead of discussing and opening up the industry? Seriously, how you can make business with your enemy?
[deleted] on
CCP and its leadership hates the Western civilization with passion.
Europeans and Americans (despite Trump) are allies and a family in shared values, and we need to build alliances also with others in the world who want to share these values.
RopeFew941 on
Europe invaded China before lmao.
RopeFew941 on
Europe joined US Cold War on China.
arde1k on
Paywalled opinion column by a „Henry Kissinger Distinguished Professor“ reposted with clickbaity title on reddit.
I think this is it. With the media literacy in the comments nothing more needs to be said. Reality has become partisan. As in 1984: „We have always been at war with East Asia“. We are already living in the dystopia we so wanted to prevent.
reactionstack on
China is silly for not just expanding to russia. They could just walk to the east of Ural and call it their own. Easy.
Would the world give a damn? Could the world give a damn?
Independent-Day-9170 on
Yeah. Europe has shown that it will never under any circumstance retaliate for hybrid warfare on EU countries, so why wouldn’t China get in on the action? It is, after all, completely risk-free.
Nearby-Chocolate-289 on
Any country working with China does not benefit from EU trade, simps.
Far_Note6719 on
Of course they do. They want to bind western military in this war to enter Taiwan easily.
switchquest on
Yes. Let buy more ‚Made in China‘ and fund our own downfall.
Ok. It’s our downfall, but at least we’ll have cheap shit to throw in the garbage when it fails after 3 uses.
Happinessisawarmbunn on
Well half of Ukrainian drone parts come from China. They are happy to play all sides against each other.
Salty_Championship26 on
We could have build what China did, probably not this fast and now we wouldn’t be here, but no we had to exploit the labour there also…….this is the price of that
Salty_Championship26 on
We could have build what China did, probably not this fast and now we wouldn’t be here, but no we had to exploit the labour there also…….this is the price of that
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*From Bloomberg Opinion Columnist Hal Brands:*
Putin’s Russia is only getting nastier. The political system has become violent and quasi-fascist. The economy is thoroughly mobilized for war. Putin is forging deeper ties with other US adversaries, like China and North Korea. He believes his country is already locked in an existential conflict with “the collective west.”
That struggle will continue, in one form or another, even after the war in Ukraine ends. It may even intensify, as China supports Russia’s below-the-threshold assault.
Chinese meddling in Europe isn’t nearly as aggressive as Putin’s. But Chinese ships have been involved in cable-cutting incidents in the Baltic. Chinese cyberattacks have become more ambitious and more common. Western officials allege a growing symbiosis between Russian and Chinese disinformation campaigns.
People on this sub still thinking China will simp for the EU
I’m sure China has been a part of it for a while already
China is bankrolling Russia since the beginning of Ukraine war.
„Joining“? You mean they haven’t been already?
Not like thats been painfully obvious for 2 years already? I guess the messaging, the chauvinism and the actions werent obvious enough?
Cant wait for local sinophiles to suck this regime off again because they now make nice cars or make wind mills. Actual NPCs.
Dictatorial regimes will have to put aside differences for the common cause & continued oppression of its people leaving the few to retain power & wealth, these regimes must continue to oppose human rights & freedoms to survive.
This is truly disconcerting. Western European leaders are working restlessly to draft up a strongly worded letter.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend- China
Aside from his opinion, if Kissinger gets to endow a chair I don’t see why lesser war criminals shouldn’t get to.
> Hal Brands (born 1983) is an American columnist and scholar of US foreign policy. He is the Henry A. Kissinger Distinguished Professor of Global Affairs at the School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) at Johns Hopkins University, as well as a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.
Chinese redditors will deny
It isn’t a „shadow“ war.
I mean this isn’t good for Europe but what do you expect? Russia and China aren’t friends but they’re geographic neighbours and closer allies than China and Europe have been since the fall of the Soviet Union.
China’s support of Russia is always going to be a given. What we can hope is they simply remain a sort of supportive role without serious involvement in the war, deploying troops or a full commitment to Ukraine’s utter defeat.
China has less at stake than Europe does so hopefully this keeps Europe’s involvement more detrimental to Russia’s war effort than the other way around.
More likely they are partners in crime since that Olympic Games meeting before 2022. Probably the only thing that went wrong is war in Ukraine. The first stage actually of their plan, lol.
China is our enemy? *pikachuface
TikTok is China’s strongest weapon. I suppose they have a „Ministry of Mental Enfeeblement of Western Societies“ by now.
What do you mean „joining“. China is the mastermind behind that. Russia is just a tool …
WW3 well under way…
I’m old enough to remember this same headline two years ago
Lol 😂 China is also behind this, last week it was India and Brazil. Looks like the whole world is conspiring 😐 against a few.
China is investing more money to several small countries in Africa – for example Sambia – than they invest in russia.
Sure, China has made „promises“ to invest in russia worth of several hundreds of millions BUT they are all just words for now. About 0,25% of China’s foreign invests are in russia at the moment. Their biggest and direct neighbour. Makes you wonder…
Fair fight. Europe and Usa versus Russia and China! I want to livein a multipolar world
Bloomberg is American propaganda
I think the heading should be opposite, Russia finally joined China against Europe.
Trump salivating to join China and Russia for a coordinated attack on a vulnerable and slow Europe that doesn’t have a real army to speak of
Welcome to things we have know. For many a year
It was already part of war since the start
Tarrifs on China when?
AFAIK a Chinese delegation is coming to visit some European countries. Why not showing them the zoo instead of discussing and opening up the industry? Seriously, how you can make business with your enemy?
CCP and its leadership hates the Western civilization with passion.
Europeans and Americans (despite Trump) are allies and a family in shared values, and we need to build alliances also with others in the world who want to share these values.
Europe invaded China before lmao.
Europe joined US Cold War on China.
Paywalled opinion column by a „Henry Kissinger Distinguished Professor“ reposted with clickbaity title on reddit.
I think this is it. With the media literacy in the comments nothing more needs to be said. Reality has become partisan. As in 1984: „We have always been at war with East Asia“. We are already living in the dystopia we so wanted to prevent.
China is silly for not just expanding to russia. They could just walk to the east of Ural and call it their own. Easy.
Would the world give a damn? Could the world give a damn?
Yeah. Europe has shown that it will never under any circumstance retaliate for hybrid warfare on EU countries, so why wouldn’t China get in on the action? It is, after all, completely risk-free.
Any country working with China does not benefit from EU trade, simps.
Of course they do. They want to bind western military in this war to enter Taiwan easily.
Yes. Let buy more ‚Made in China‘ and fund our own downfall.
Ok. It’s our downfall, but at least we’ll have cheap shit to throw in the garbage when it fails after 3 uses.
Well half of Ukrainian drone parts come from China. They are happy to play all sides against each other.
We could have build what China did, probably not this fast and now we wouldn’t be here, but no we had to exploit the labour there also…….this is the price of that
We could have build what China did, probably not this fast and now we wouldn’t be here, but no we had to exploit the labour there also…….this is the price of that