An opportunistic move to say the least, trying to get on the right side of this nice and early.
Regardless, this is the fallout from a mess Fianna Fail created themselves. Although they’ll keep saying a process was followed and he was selected etc.. But virtually every senior member of Fianna Fail came out with glowing support support of Gavin before he got the nomination, it kind of set a precedent that you have to vote for him.
So it was only ever going to go one way, and Gavin was obviously fairly naive in terms of thinking his dirty laundry wouldn’t come out. People are more than capable of sitting on information for years, and airing it at the right time, and this is what happened here.
asdrunkasdrunkcanbe on
Thta’s a bold move if ever there was one. He’s deliberating separating out Gavin from the leadership, so that the focus of the fuck up can be on the hasty and poorly executed nomination, and not on Gavin himself – because he’s no longer relevant.
He’s pretty clearly saying here, „The FF leadership have fucked up and now need to be held to account“.
I wonder who he’s got on his side? Because he’s young and has a clean slate, figuratively, then he’s a wise person to be the one to make this statement, but he’s definitely not acting alone.
Rossbeigh on
The hand that wields the knife shall never wear the crown.
Future_Jackfruit5360 on
Why does this feel like it lacks any real empathy for the people who were left without money.
Poor Jim was embarrassed.
Cute-Chemistry-2815 on
In some ways it’s fucked Fine Gael as well like HH was relying on Jim’s transfers, I’d imagine more people are now inclined to just stay home rather than making the effort of actually turning up to vote for her number 1.
dublinro on
Jaysus that was honest and fair assessment. Are we sure he is a TD. #JamesOConnorForPresident
aecolley on
Maybe stop pretending that Presidential nominations are the business of the party whip. Maybe let every TD and Senator nominate whoever they think fit, and quit threatening them with party disfavour in order to control nominations centrally.
No-Psychology-2430 on
That’s a great letter.
RepresentativeBox657 on
Jim Gavin is still on the ballot. What happens to his votes, and more crucially, his no 2’s. If they push HH over the line, will it be a valid election. Only in Ireland.
jhanley on
Mehole and Union Jack tried to handpick a mouthpiece who wouldn’t cause a fuss or refer anything to the council of state/supreme court. It’s on the younger generation here to make sure these guys pay for this, otherwise there’s no disincentive for this type of behaviour.
Tis_STUNNING_Outside on
Jesus Christ, I knew James didn’t like FF leadership but I didn’t think he’d deploy a nuclear strike on them.
One-Shop7806 on
Backbenchers should vote against the budget
fiendishcadd on
Poorly advised? He acted poorly why is it someone else’s mistake
earth-calling-karma on
I hope to sweet suffering typsetting jesus he used left align in the original statement.
Jester-252 on
That is a declaration of war if I ever saw one.
CubicDice on
One little blurb about the young couple being fucked over by Gavin, but many lines about how unfair the treatment he has received and set up for failure. Fuck off James, yeah?
smashedspuds on
It’s Everyman for himself in terms of saving face for FF now, lovely to watch
oneeyedman72 on
I love all the sympathy for poor Jim…..greedy prick caught out but poor Jim!
TwoRelative4870 on
Luckily FF have no skeletons in the closet from that era.
FunkLoudSoulNoise on
In Dublin fair, where stories swell,
A tale arose that folks now tell—
Of landlord Jim, so bold, so sly,
Who let his tenant’s hopes run dry.
“Just €3,500,” the tenant pled,
“For rent you owe, the lease you shed.”
But lo! What’s this? A statesman speaks—
Micheál Martin, past his peaks.
He scans the land with furrowed brow,
To crown a prez? He’ll show us how!
With wisdom dim and instincts dulled,
He backs a pick that leaves us lulled.
“A fine choice!” Micheál declared—
While half the country stopped and stared.
So raise a glass to Irish flair—
Where landlords dodge, and leaders blare.
A tenant’s loss, a nation’s sigh,
And clowns in suits who still get by.
ChatGPT , LOL.
Jacksonriverboy on
This is the most clear evidence so far that there’s a heave against Martin in the works.
Zealousideal_Car9368 on
Sorry but i hate the way people are trying to frame it in a way to make what Jim Gavin did was a ‚mistake‘ of some sort sickens me.
Yes he made the ‚mistake‘ of not repaying that over payment, the same way a person who robs a shop made the ‚mistake‘ of putting the stuff into their pockets on purpose and walking out the door of the shop.
Its called Theft.
CommunicationBest568 on
Speaks volumes that FFail cant find a half decent human being amongst their ranks.
Is minic a bhí an t-uaigneas i dteach mór
Few_Historian183 on
„… ensure it is never repeated“ That’s code for MARTIN OUT
RomfordWellington on
That could be the end of MM
Vivid_Ice_2755 on
Reading the comments in the voice of that woman presenter off Traitors
Cautious-Hovercraft7 on
I smell mutiny
Vicaliscous on
A mistake he deeply regrets? The absolute neck!!
DC750 on
Let the battle for party presidency begin. That is a clear statement about how inept Martin and Chambers are. He is trying to push them out.
Otherwise-Winner9643 on
It’s fine to acknowledge the mistakes in putting him forward, but defending Jim Gavin’s behaviour is ridiculous. He stole from someone and lied about it. I imagine the only „advice“ he received was to ignore it because it would cost them more to take him to court than the money owed.
achasanai on
A FF TD calling on someone to ‚put right the grave mistakes of 2009′ and that he ’should never have found himself on a ballot paper‘ is quite funny.
LifetimePilingUp on
Here comes the heave. Will FF oust MM while he’s Taoiseach?
svmk1987 on
Why are these folks ignoring the fact that he failed to repay the tenants after repeated requests and legal threats, and still owes them money to this day? If he really wanted to correct a mistake made in the past, he had 16 years to do so.
shorelined on
O’Connor clearly expects us to get a new Taoiseach before we get a new Uachtarán
LogicalNewspaper8891 on
“Ome he regrets”. Yeah, my bollox only regrets it because he’s been caught out
Acrobatic_Task_4415 on
Lifting Jim Gavin to victim status… I’m sorry but Jim Gavin could’ve said no thanks, I’ve no experience of politics
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A good statement rare for an Irish politician
An opportunistic move to say the least, trying to get on the right side of this nice and early.
Regardless, this is the fallout from a mess Fianna Fail created themselves. Although they’ll keep saying a process was followed and he was selected etc.. But virtually every senior member of Fianna Fail came out with glowing support support of Gavin before he got the nomination, it kind of set a precedent that you have to vote for him.
So it was only ever going to go one way, and Gavin was obviously fairly naive in terms of thinking his dirty laundry wouldn’t come out. People are more than capable of sitting on information for years, and airing it at the right time, and this is what happened here.
Thta’s a bold move if ever there was one. He’s deliberating separating out Gavin from the leadership, so that the focus of the fuck up can be on the hasty and poorly executed nomination, and not on Gavin himself – because he’s no longer relevant.
He’s pretty clearly saying here, „The FF leadership have fucked up and now need to be held to account“.
I wonder who he’s got on his side? Because he’s young and has a clean slate, figuratively, then he’s a wise person to be the one to make this statement, but he’s definitely not acting alone.
The hand that wields the knife shall never wear the crown.
Why does this feel like it lacks any real empathy for the people who were left without money.
Poor Jim was embarrassed.
In some ways it’s fucked Fine Gael as well like HH was relying on Jim’s transfers, I’d imagine more people are now inclined to just stay home rather than making the effort of actually turning up to vote for her number 1.
Jaysus that was honest and fair assessment. Are we sure he is a TD. #JamesOConnorForPresident
Maybe stop pretending that Presidential nominations are the business of the party whip. Maybe let every TD and Senator nominate whoever they think fit, and quit threatening them with party disfavour in order to control nominations centrally.
That’s a great letter.
Jim Gavin is still on the ballot. What happens to his votes, and more crucially, his no 2’s. If they push HH over the line, will it be a valid election. Only in Ireland.
Mehole and Union Jack tried to handpick a mouthpiece who wouldn’t cause a fuss or refer anything to the council of state/supreme court. It’s on the younger generation here to make sure these guys pay for this, otherwise there’s no disincentive for this type of behaviour.
Jesus Christ, I knew James didn’t like FF leadership but I didn’t think he’d deploy a nuclear strike on them.
Backbenchers should vote against the budget
Poorly advised? He acted poorly why is it someone else’s mistake
I hope to sweet suffering typsetting jesus he used left align in the original statement.
That is a declaration of war if I ever saw one.
One little blurb about the young couple being fucked over by Gavin, but many lines about how unfair the treatment he has received and set up for failure. Fuck off James, yeah?
It’s Everyman for himself in terms of saving face for FF now, lovely to watch
I love all the sympathy for poor Jim…..greedy prick caught out but poor Jim!
Luckily FF have no skeletons in the closet from that era.
In Dublin fair, where stories swell,
A tale arose that folks now tell—
Of landlord Jim, so bold, so sly,
Who let his tenant’s hopes run dry.
“Just €3,500,” the tenant pled,
“For rent you owe, the lease you shed.”
But lo! What’s this? A statesman speaks—
Micheál Martin, past his peaks.
He scans the land with furrowed brow,
To crown a prez? He’ll show us how!
With wisdom dim and instincts dulled,
He backs a pick that leaves us lulled.
“A fine choice!” Micheál declared—
While half the country stopped and stared.
So raise a glass to Irish flair—
Where landlords dodge, and leaders blare.
A tenant’s loss, a nation’s sigh,
And clowns in suits who still get by.
ChatGPT , LOL.
This is the most clear evidence so far that there’s a heave against Martin in the works.
Sorry but i hate the way people are trying to frame it in a way to make what Jim Gavin did was a ‚mistake‘ of some sort sickens me.
Yes he made the ‚mistake‘ of not repaying that over payment, the same way a person who robs a shop made the ‚mistake‘ of putting the stuff into their pockets on purpose and walking out the door of the shop.
Its called Theft.
Speaks volumes that FFail cant find a half decent human being amongst their ranks.
Is minic a bhí an t-uaigneas i dteach mór
„… ensure it is never repeated“ That’s code for MARTIN OUT
That could be the end of MM
Reading the comments in the voice of that woman presenter off Traitors
I smell mutiny
A mistake he deeply regrets? The absolute neck!!
Let the battle for party presidency begin. That is a clear statement about how inept Martin and Chambers are. He is trying to push them out.
It’s fine to acknowledge the mistakes in putting him forward, but defending Jim Gavin’s behaviour is ridiculous. He stole from someone and lied about it. I imagine the only „advice“ he received was to ignore it because it would cost them more to take him to court than the money owed.
A FF TD calling on someone to ‚put right the grave mistakes of 2009′ and that he ’should never have found himself on a ballot paper‘ is quite funny.
Here comes the heave. Will FF oust MM while he’s Taoiseach?
Why are these folks ignoring the fact that he failed to repay the tenants after repeated requests and legal threats, and still owes them money to this day? If he really wanted to correct a mistake made in the past, he had 16 years to do so.
O’Connor clearly expects us to get a new Taoiseach before we get a new Uachtarán
“Ome he regrets”. Yeah, my bollox only regrets it because he’s been caught out
Lifting Jim Gavin to victim status… I’m sorry but Jim Gavin could’ve said no thanks, I’ve no experience of politics