Arrest them for their crimes. Its Chicago, surely there is some bullshit laws on the books that they will break and can be charged for as citizens.
JesSumGuy1 on
You’d think that conservatives would be more sympathetic towards not wanting foreigners come kidnap your citizens..
Frogophile on
Just before winter. Good luck Texas popsicles.
mayancollander on
Trump is declaring war on his own country.
Ok-Garcia-5605 on
Putting State against State, just to play politics and for distracting from the fact that you’re in Epstein tapes. Eventually these troops will have to decide if they want to be part of modern day civil war, because MAGA will not stay in power forever, despite them trying
greywar777 on
Against the law. They should arrest them for it. If texas folks want to come to a different state and break the law, they should go to jail.
Its either that, or we aren’t a nation of laws.
Gadshill on
Why not call up Illinois guard to defend the city?
Gloomy_Picture1848 on
Deploy Chicago national guard to block them from coming in??
Choice-of-SteinsGate on
These measures aren’t intended to „reduce crime,“ they’re intended to occupy areas of the country where Trump’s political opposition is most prevalent. Where federalized troops can „crackdown“ on protestors and dissidents.
And this is all while Republican governors of their own statistically high crime states are sending troops to D.C. to bolster Trump’s authoritarian takeover of US cities. but at the same time, these Republicans are hesitant to ask Trump to send the military into *their* cities.
And like every other draconian policy of this administration, these actions do absolutely nothing to address the underlying issues and contributing factors to high crime rates.
Mobilizing and sending the military into densely populated cities does not even begin to remotely address the socioeconomic components; the lack of community support structures; the problems with law enforcement; the systemic injustices within our legal system; the dismantling of social safety nets for the poor and underprivileged; the historical neglect of marginalized groups and the segregationist policies that continue to impact vulnerable, minority communities to this day—which are all factors that predominantly influence crime rates.
Outside of being an effort to centralize authoritarian control over democrat-run areas, this whole mess is a political stunt meant to produce the *illusion* of safety
These tactics are taken straight from the fascist playbook. Including the current use of divisive rhetoric from Trump and his allies who are trying desperately to justify the future occupation of cities like Chicago by stigmatizing and scapegoating minorities and immigrations and by spreading fearmongering messaging.
ScottHoward1 on
So he doesn’t care about what could happen in n Texas? Kind of obvious that it’s not appropriate
brain_overclocked on
>Pritzker said the Trump administration has begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois. He added that Illinois law enforcement agents were informed by Trump administration officials that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies will soon begin immigration operations across Chicago.
>“In the coming days, we expect to see what has played out in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C., to happen here in Chicago,” Pritzker said, referring to Trump’s aggressive deployment of the military in Los Angeles earlier this year and his recent deployment in D.C.
>Pritzker’s comments came just hours after Trump said he would deploy troops to Chicago but did not specify when.
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Pritzker said the head of the Illinois State Police over the weekend was informed by Gregory Bovino, a senior Customs and Border Protection official who led aggressive immigration raids in Los Angeles, that immigration raids in Chicago would soon begin.
>The governor said the Trump administration began staging for the raids Monday by moving military vehicles onto federal properties in the state and relocating federal agents from Los Angeles to Chicago.
>Pritzker said he believes the Trump administration is timing the immigration raids for Mexican Independence Day, which Chicago’s Latino communities celebrate annually.
>“It breaks my heart to report we have been told that ICE will try to disrupt community picnics and peaceful parades,” the governor said. “Let’s be clear, the terror and cruelty is the point.”
>Pritzker added that the Trump administration may use any pushback to immigration operations as pretext to deploying National Guard troops.
>“If someone flings a sandwich at an ICE agent, Trump will try and go on TV and declare an emergency,” he added, while urging Chicagoans to “not take the bait.”
>“None of this is about fighting crime or making Chicago safer. None of it,” Pritzker said. “For Trump, it’s about testing his power and producing a political drama to cover up for his corruption.”
>“Any rational person who has spent even the most minimal amount of time studying human history has to ask themselves one important question: Once they get the citizens of this nation comfortable with the current atrocities committed under the color of law, what comes next?”
ETPRODITORES on
Weaponize jury equity strategies like hung juries / jury nullification. Treat them however you please and let them make a case about it. The administration can ship in agents and troops but it can’t ship in jurors. It’d be up to Chicago to judge its own.
RiseDelicious3556 on
And yet when thugs attack the Capitol, he does nothing; were I he, I’d have done this in reverse.
123-Moondance on
Sounds like if Pritzker cannot stop them from coming he needs to put them to work cleaning up trash (literal) off the street like what ended up happening in DC. Free clean up at TX’s expense.
Buddha-Embryo on
When is the national guard going to stand up and refuse to follow illegal orders? What illegal orders *won’t* they follow?
Raspberries-Are-Evil on
Order them before hand to refuse the order and he should tell the leadership of the Guard he will fire them if they don’t.
Order the State Police to detain any uniformed soldier invading.
GoWest1223 on
National Guard = Occupying Force.
Donkey_Doody on
Texas should start protesting bigger now
not2dv8 on
I wonder if conservatives thinks it’s fascist now? I knew this s*** would happen I told everybody if they vote for this bastard the United States as we know it will be finished.
CJDistasio on
Texas national guard in Illinois? Sounds like some civil war shit
Friscogonewild on
Texas has 7 cities with a violent crime rate higher than Chicago’s.
Seems like there’s plenty of work they could be doing locally.
shibby3388 on
I hope Chicago’s version of D.C.’s sandwich guy flings a deep dish pizza.
Xyldarrand on
Time to fire up the Illinois National Guard to fight back.
And don’t worry as soon as they get even a hint of the cold or God forbid snow they’ll lose their collective minds.
smalltownlargefry on
Fuck off they wont do shit. Won’t go anywhere south of the Loop. Most expensive photo op that the American tax payer will pay for.
anemic_royaltea on
No chance of shrewdly outmaneuvering the dumbest man on earth, eh
fotosaur on
If I remember correctly, China did the same or similar during the Tiananmen Square protests. They had troops from another providence(s) to squash the protestors, to reduce any troops knowing anyone in the protest.
chubby_pink_donut on
So… A well regulated Illinois militia is within their rights to do anything to stop the convoy?
Dumpenstein3d on
I’m rooting for you America..
dmetzcher on
It was illegal when he did it in California (a federal judge confirmed), so it will be illegal when he does it in Illinois.
This is going to be an unpopular conversation, but…
The military—if they follow the President’s illegal orders—is in danger of squandering the love many of us have for them and returning to a darker period when (for example, during and after the Vietnam War) they were despised by a significant number of Americans. They’ve spent three generations rehabilitating their image.
The President is issuing illegal orders, and if our military isn’t saying no, they’re committing a crime on US soil, and I I’m not going to want to hear their excuses for why they don’t want to refuse. “We were just following the orders of the commander-in-chief” sounds very fancy, but illegal orders are illegal—period.
We worship our military in this country—so much so that other western democracies think we’re weird—but if they’re willing to follow *these* illegal orders, we should expect them to follow *any* illegal orders the President gives them, and that’s rather terrifying. Those of us who’ve held out hope that our military officers take their oath seriously (to defend our Constitution from *all* enemies, foreign and domestic) might be surprised to find that they don’t.
I guess time will tell, but that time is coming fast, and it’s going to be upon us before we know it.
And when all the smoke clears from this—years from now when Trump is no longer in office—I want prosecutions for any officers who didn’t refuse an illegal order. Make examples of each and every one of them so it never happens again.
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So its an invasion….
Arrest them for their crimes. Its Chicago, surely there is some bullshit laws on the books that they will break and can be charged for as citizens.
You’d think that conservatives would be more sympathetic towards not wanting foreigners come kidnap your citizens..
Just before winter. Good luck Texas popsicles.
Trump is declaring war on his own country.
Putting State against State, just to play politics and for distracting from the fact that you’re in Epstein tapes. Eventually these troops will have to decide if they want to be part of modern day civil war, because MAGA will not stay in power forever, despite them trying
Against the law. They should arrest them for it. If texas folks want to come to a different state and break the law, they should go to jail.
Its either that, or we aren’t a nation of laws.
Why not call up Illinois guard to defend the city?
Deploy Chicago national guard to block them from coming in??
These measures aren’t intended to „reduce crime,“ they’re intended to occupy areas of the country where Trump’s political opposition is most prevalent. Where federalized troops can „crackdown“ on protestors and dissidents.
And this is all while Republican governors of their own statistically high crime states are sending troops to D.C. to bolster Trump’s authoritarian takeover of US cities. but at the same time, these Republicans are hesitant to ask Trump to send the military into *their* cities.
And like every other draconian policy of this administration, these actions do absolutely nothing to address the underlying issues and contributing factors to high crime rates.
Mobilizing and sending the military into densely populated cities does not even begin to remotely address the socioeconomic components; the lack of community support structures; the problems with law enforcement; the systemic injustices within our legal system; the dismantling of social safety nets for the poor and underprivileged; the historical neglect of marginalized groups and the segregationist policies that continue to impact vulnerable, minority communities to this day—which are all factors that predominantly influence crime rates.
Outside of being an effort to centralize authoritarian control over democrat-run areas, this whole mess is a political stunt meant to produce the *illusion* of safety
These tactics are taken straight from the fascist playbook. Including the current use of divisive rhetoric from Trump and his allies who are trying desperately to justify the future occupation of cities like Chicago by stigmatizing and scapegoating minorities and immigrations and by spreading fearmongering messaging.
So he doesn’t care about what could happen in n Texas? Kind of obvious that it’s not appropriate
>Pritzker said the Trump administration has begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois. He added that Illinois law enforcement agents were informed by Trump administration officials that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies will soon begin immigration operations across Chicago.
>“In the coming days, we expect to see what has played out in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C., to happen here in Chicago,” Pritzker said, referring to Trump’s aggressive deployment of the military in Los Angeles earlier this year and his recent deployment in D.C.
>Pritzker’s comments came just hours after Trump said he would deploy troops to Chicago but did not specify when.
…
Pritzker said the head of the Illinois State Police over the weekend was informed by Gregory Bovino, a senior Customs and Border Protection official who led aggressive immigration raids in Los Angeles, that immigration raids in Chicago would soon begin.
>The governor said the Trump administration began staging for the raids Monday by moving military vehicles onto federal properties in the state and relocating federal agents from Los Angeles to Chicago.
>Pritzker said he believes the Trump administration is timing the immigration raids for Mexican Independence Day, which Chicago’s Latino communities celebrate annually.
>“It breaks my heart to report we have been told that ICE will try to disrupt community picnics and peaceful parades,” the governor said. “Let’s be clear, the terror and cruelty is the point.”
>Pritzker added that the Trump administration may use any pushback to immigration operations as pretext to deploying National Guard troops.
>“If someone flings a sandwich at an ICE agent, Trump will try and go on TV and declare an emergency,” he added, while urging Chicagoans to “not take the bait.”
>“None of this is about fighting crime or making Chicago safer. None of it,” Pritzker said. “For Trump, it’s about testing his power and producing a political drama to cover up for his corruption.”
>“Any rational person who has spent even the most minimal amount of time studying human history has to ask themselves one important question: Once they get the citizens of this nation comfortable with the current atrocities committed under the color of law, what comes next?”
Weaponize jury equity strategies like hung juries / jury nullification. Treat them however you please and let them make a case about it. The administration can ship in agents and troops but it can’t ship in jurors. It’d be up to Chicago to judge its own.
And yet when thugs attack the Capitol, he does nothing; were I he, I’d have done this in reverse.
Sounds like if Pritzker cannot stop them from coming he needs to put them to work cleaning up trash (literal) off the street like what ended up happening in DC. Free clean up at TX’s expense.
When is the national guard going to stand up and refuse to follow illegal orders? What illegal orders *won’t* they follow?
Order them before hand to refuse the order and he should tell the leadership of the Guard he will fire them if they don’t.
Order the State Police to detain any uniformed soldier invading.
National Guard = Occupying Force.
Texas should start protesting bigger now
I wonder if conservatives thinks it’s fascist now? I knew this s*** would happen I told everybody if they vote for this bastard the United States as we know it will be finished.
Texas national guard in Illinois? Sounds like some civil war shit
Texas has 7 cities with a violent crime rate higher than Chicago’s.
Seems like there’s plenty of work they could be doing locally.
I hope Chicago’s version of D.C.’s sandwich guy flings a deep dish pizza.
Time to fire up the Illinois National Guard to fight back.
And don’t worry as soon as they get even a hint of the cold or God forbid snow they’ll lose their collective minds.
Fuck off they wont do shit. Won’t go anywhere south of the Loop. Most expensive photo op that the American tax payer will pay for.
No chance of shrewdly outmaneuvering the dumbest man on earth, eh
If I remember correctly, China did the same or similar during the Tiananmen Square protests. They had troops from another providence(s) to squash the protestors, to reduce any troops knowing anyone in the protest.
So… A well regulated Illinois militia is within their rights to do anything to stop the convoy?
I’m rooting for you America..
It was illegal when he did it in California (a federal judge confirmed), so it will be illegal when he does it in Illinois.
This is going to be an unpopular conversation, but…
The military—if they follow the President’s illegal orders—is in danger of squandering the love many of us have for them and returning to a darker period when (for example, during and after the Vietnam War) they were despised by a significant number of Americans. They’ve spent three generations rehabilitating their image.
The President is issuing illegal orders, and if our military isn’t saying no, they’re committing a crime on US soil, and I I’m not going to want to hear their excuses for why they don’t want to refuse. “We were just following the orders of the commander-in-chief” sounds very fancy, but illegal orders are illegal—period.
We worship our military in this country—so much so that other western democracies think we’re weird—but if they’re willing to follow *these* illegal orders, we should expect them to follow *any* illegal orders the President gives them, and that’s rather terrifying. Those of us who’ve held out hope that our military officers take their oath seriously (to defend our Constitution from *all* enemies, foreign and domestic) might be surprised to find that they don’t.
I guess time will tell, but that time is coming fast, and it’s going to be upon us before we know it.
And when all the smoke clears from this—years from now when Trump is no longer in office—I want prosecutions for any officers who didn’t refuse an illegal order. Make examples of each and every one of them so it never happens again.