Marines befugte sich, Demonstranten in LA vorübergehend festzuhalten, was rechtliche Bedenken ausspricht

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/06/11/marines-authorized-temporarily-detain-protesters-la-raising-legal-concerns.html

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    1. sugarlessdeathbear on

      The fuck? That is 100% an illegal order, and every service member in every branch of every rank should know that. Anyone who follows that order is playing with their career.

    2. Truthisnotallowed on

      Fascists require a scapegoat – a class of people they can blame for all of societies ills. Trump has chosen immigrants, which is a ‚dog-whistle‘ for non-whites.

      The ‚immigrant invasion‘ they want us to fear is a trick to convince us to give up our freedoms, our rights, in exchange for being kept safe from this phony menace.

      >“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.“ – Benjamin Franklin

      What Trump is attempting to do is to set up a two-tier legal system, in which groups of people targeted by Trump are denied access to the legal system used by the rest of the country. This is a common ploy of authoritarians – because resistance to these attacks on the rule of law is weaker when these changes do not apply to everyone. It is much easier to pretend ‚this if fine‘ when you yourself are not a member of one of the groups being attacked.

      FYI: [A portion of a video discussing two-tier legal systems](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a99moLo1Hhg#t=15m33s)

      [America Is Watching the Rise of a Dual State – Article from ‚The Atlantic‘](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/05/trump-executive-order-lawlessness-constitutional-crisis/682112/)

      [The Frightening Precedents for Trump’s ‘Legal Abyss’ – Article from ‚The New York Times‘](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/03/world/trump-dual-state.html)

      If you fail to defend other people’s rights – that is how you lose your own.

    3. anythingicando12 on

      Not holding that orange pee bag accountable was the worst mistake the usa ever did and compounded it by making his potus again.

    4. Oldschoolhype2 on

      Blatantly illegal. Fascist shit. All the dont tread on me flags should be replaced with „tread on them.“

    5. Detaining an individual with the intent to take them into custody IS THE DEFINITION OF ARREST!

      This is illegal & very dangerous for our democracy (if we can still call it that)!

    6. RetakePatriotism2025 on

      US Marines are being used on Americans. We’ve crossed the red line. Trump has declared war on the American people and anyone defending this is an abject coward and traitor.

    7. Marines unconstitutionally and illegally told they are authorized to detain protesters. There I fixed the headline for you

    8. Forward-Weather4845 on

      Looks like Trump declared martial law without actually declaring martial law. Didn’t the South Korean guy get impeached for doing the same sort of thing?

    9. Hopefully Breyer (11th Circuit) will pull the plug on this, and Kagan (assigned to 11th) will decline emergency appeal, then we see if king donnie will ignore SCOTUS.

    10. I sincerely feel like the USMC commanders who gave and followed that order should all be court martialed. They wont, because Hegseth and Trump are fascist pigs, but they should be. The precedent this sets is … unsettling to say the least.

    11. TintedApostle on

      „There’s a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people“

      – Admiral Adama

    12. thistimelineisweird on

      Marines have about as much authority over me as ICE does. Namely, none. 

    13. Authorized by who with what legal authority? They are there illegally in the first place so nothing they do is constitutionally legally authorized. All of this normalizing using armed forces against American citizens on American soil is dangerous.

    14. AcadiaLivid2582 on

      This is blatantly illegal under the Posse Comitatus Act.

      I hope this fact still matters.

    15. “Temporarily” detain ? They are acting like police officers if they detain someone and by law are not allowed to carry out police duties. The Gestapo coming to a city near you soon

    16. substandardgaussian on

      Marines **cannot** be authorized to do that. It’s an illegal order.

    17. Tasty-Performer6669 on

      Nope. 100% no.

      This is not defending and upholding the Constitution. This is traitorous tyranny

    18. omgpuppiesarecute on

      They’re also carrying live ammunition now, to be used against US citizens.

      At the press conference yesterday with General Traitor McFuckhead, around 1:45 he is asked by the press if they are carrying live ammunition and he confirms that they are.

    19. worldscollice on

      Any Marine who detains Americans citizens should be publicly named. This is a disgrace to our country.

    20. Arm yourselves, this is why the 2nd ammendment was added. Don’t wait until you’re sitting in a death camp to grow a spine. Btw Trump and his goons will come for you one day too, unless you’re rich, white and male willing to kiss the kings feet this fascist regime will come after you one day too.

      First They Came
      by Martin Niemöller

      First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
      Because I was not a Socialist.
      Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
      Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
      Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
      Because I was not a Jew.
      Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

      Don’t make the same mistakes the Germans made, realize this situation is just as bad, stop ignoring it

    21. CarrionWaywardOne on

      Well, here we are. The US military is officially being used against American citizens.

      The American experiment is over. I’m afraid the only right left standing will be the 2nd amendment.

      I’m glad I don’t have grandkids who will have to face whatever this country will look like when the current administration is done with it.

    22. south-of-the-river on

      “Raising legal concerns”. Guys you need to shift the conversation, legality is no longer on the table. You’ll be “raising legal concerns” all the way to the box cars at this rate.

    23. Nothing really happening in LA unless they want to detain the LAPD for being bully assholes.

    24. I really hope we have fair elections after this and the Democrats take back control. I want anyone involved with this administration, including military, thrown in prison. If the Republicans don’t have to follow the law then we should help them out

    25. _still_truckin_ on

      This isn’t what the Marines are for. They are not peacekeepers. They are not an occupying force. The USMC is the tip of the spear. This is so fucking embarrassing.

    26. WaelreowMadr on

      Every Marine who was told this needs to understand:

      This is an illegal order.

      „I was following orders“ is NOT a defense under the UCMJ for following an Illegal Order.

      Following an illegal order instead of refusing to follow it IS A CRIME under the UCMJ.

      Every Marine is given extensive training on recognizing illegal orders and how to disobey/refuse to obey them.

      Every Marine involved here (in the unlikely event that you’re reading this):

      If you do this, you can and will be prosecuted for this when Trump isnt the President anymore. You will go to Leavenworth.

      Do your jobs, do your duty. Refuse to obey. If your officer(s) try to force you, arrest them, as you are required to do.

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