It astounds me that these people can’t connect the dots sometimes. If they have to operate under tight/vulnerable budgets with a lot of oversight, with paper trails for about everything they do… Why wouldn’t it be efficient and above board???
Individual_Respect90 on
Ohh who could have seen this coming?
FollowingFeisty5321 on
It’s almost like there are checks and balances for all of the checks and balances… that’s actually how corruption went out of fashion in western countries!
sweens90 on
The only agency that cant account for money is DoD
bluehat9 on
The numbers are big so there must be massive waste or fraud, they think
They can’t understand that the country and government are just big, so the numbers are big without any waste or fraud.
I_Hate_Consulting on
„Was“
DiscountSoOn on
I keep being surprised by these articles with actual journalistic integrity thinking they’re it says latimes.com
AuthenticAppalachian on
What I would gather is most Inefficiency in government is due to lack of funding for that particular department.
So yea, underfunded programs are going to be less efficient because they have less resources.
Creative-Package6213 on
No shit. But now all of that goes out the window because Republicans have absolutely demolished decades of institutional knowledge and experience (obviously purposefully).
sane_sober61 on
It’s not efficiency DOGE is after, it’s regulations that affect billionaires negatively.
RAMacDonald901 on
Not the narrative MAGA wants to spread
arilupe on
Well it was efficient…
Taikunman on
It was so clear from the start that these clowns had zero clue. They know so little about how things actually work yet they confidently think they can do better. Maybe a bunch of college-age broccoli bros don’t actually know as much as seasoned professionals and things exist the way they do for reasons beyond your minimal understanding.
I’ve worked with so many of these types of Dunning-Kruger losers in my career. „Just do it this way bro, trust me bro“ when you have no understanding of the subtleties of the situation or the business drivers that dictate why things are how they are. Stay in your lane.
StormOk7544 on
It’s baffling to me how successful Trump and Musk have been in terms of hoodwinking voters. Their own cults would never abandon them even if the two of them shot cultists’ relatives in plain sight, but centrists, swing voters, infrequent voters, whatever, I just don’t understand. They’ve been so embarrassingly pranked when it comes to DOGE and government waste and they still don’t seem like they’re waking up.
bestleftunsolved on
It’s a reverse Truman Committee. The Truman Committee found that contractors for military housing were corrupt and they saved money by having the Army Corps of Engineers build housing. Now we will have the funding redirected to corrupt and wasteful contractors.
marlinspike on
Yeah, that’s BS — Nobody’s floored by the efficiency of government. What they don’t get is that Government isn’t the pinnacle of efficiency sometimes for good reason. You can have a GW Bush, Obama or Trump-1 as president — the machinery keeps working. Bureaucracy is critical to government, as government can’t change fundamenal rules every 5 days. You need career people who don’t owe loyalty to a person or party for their jobs, and can afford to do their jobs for the benefit of citizens.
Beginning-Olive-3745 on
Our department literally runs on minimal staff. Every new administration comes in and tries to hit us with cuts and new software and methods. We’re so much quicker than our contractors that it’s a little absurd. They literally complained we had too many electric vehicle charging stations. I’m pretty sure we had none.
kungfoojesus on
Waste, excessive redundancy, glacial pace? Probably could find a decent amount of that. Abuse? Only by individuals and corporations abusing grants, loan forgiveness, and tax law.
Ok-disaster2022 on
Yep. The fact is what „abuse“ there is literally amounts to fraction of a fraction of the overall national debt or even overall budget.
RealCoolDad on
Is this really all because of one line of dialog from the movie independence Day?
HauntedCemetery on
Next they’ll be amazed at how they couldn’t find any cat boxes or surgical theaters in public schools.
Cdub7791 on
Having read his interview and his blog, it’s so frustrating to me we have these very smart guys who are so arrogant that they think they can come into these huge, complex, old organizations and „fix“ them essentially overnight.
Oh, this guy doesn’t come across as an arrogant narcissist or anything, but the idea that you just come in and don’t bother getting the lay of the land, learn what tools are or are not available, what the laws and regulatory requirements are, what the processes are and **why** they are the way they are – it just screams a lack of humility. I wouldn’t go into a tech company and start demanding they use the tools and processes I used in my previous, *completely unrelated* career field.
ggaassghd677 on
Well it aint anymore…
Holden_Coalfield on
that’s because Abuse and Fraud is just white code for your money is being wasted on fraudulent black and brown people
Sure_Quality5354 on
The issue is never money. Its never efficiency. Its all about what we choose to fund and what we dont choose to fund. We have the capability to provide healthcare for people. We have the ability to provide opportunities for people. We simply choose not to.
cm103 on
Right…so the next thing they’ll try to sell me is that Biden didn’t let in billions of undocumented people across the southern border.
/s
upfromashes on
Still, had to cut tens of thousands of jobs. Can’t cripple infrastructures by leaving the efficient to their work.
RasCorr on
The MAGAs will believe that the average government employee would commit major felonies but the politicians taking bribes could never do such a thing.
PageVanDamme on
How incredibly f*****g r*******d do you have to be to not even think about the conflict of interest? And I consider myself naive.
I recall some saying “He’s a billionaire, yet he’s doing it for free”
First of all.
1) Things he immediately did are directly related to his businesses
2) Once you reach billionaire status, what you are after that point is power not money.
bowser986 on
As backwards as this sounds…get this guy on Rogan. That’s one of the few platforms that would actually let this sink in.
KamiNoItte on
That’s b/c doge employees are ignorant children with no fucking clue about their own privilege or how the world really works.
Qubed on
The government is extremely efficient where it needs or wants to be and it is inefficient where it needs to or wants to be.
If you look at anything you would call inefficient in the government, there is a chain of decisions, often leading back to an legislator or party or corporate interest that wants it to be that way.
No_Consequence7919 on
Isn’t that just wonderful. Better let the never fit here? Musk was doing what he was told/hired to do by, the ruiner of harmony. We are about to feel the need for calm reality.
ManufacturerThis7741 on
The biggest inefficiencies are things conservatives force the government to do, like mandating that the government contract out every other random function so small businesses don’t have their little feelings hurt.
BrilliantForeign8899 on
No shit. A lot of governments do have waste but many departments are lean as they come, hiring contractors and part timers — at hours short of full time to legally save money on benefits
JMDeutsch on
Their entire view of the problem is informed by how much we paid the military industrial complex for nails in 1989.
podkayne3000 on
This is probably a sign of how poorly conceived the DOGE effort was.
There probably are some problems. How could there not be?
But DOGE didn’t get enough buy-in to find the problems; it just knocked out people at random.
zeldarama on
“How efficient the government was” 🤣ok. As a government employee I can assure you this is complete bs
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It astounds me that these people can’t connect the dots sometimes. If they have to operate under tight/vulnerable budgets with a lot of oversight, with paper trails for about everything they do… Why wouldn’t it be efficient and above board???
Ohh who could have seen this coming?
It’s almost like there are checks and balances for all of the checks and balances… that’s actually how corruption went out of fashion in western countries!
The only agency that cant account for money is DoD
The numbers are big so there must be massive waste or fraud, they think
They can’t understand that the country and government are just big, so the numbers are big without any waste or fraud.
„Was“
I keep being surprised by these articles with actual journalistic integrity thinking they’re it says latimes.com
What I would gather is most Inefficiency in government is due to lack of funding for that particular department.
So yea, underfunded programs are going to be less efficient because they have less resources.
No shit. But now all of that goes out the window because Republicans have absolutely demolished decades of institutional knowledge and experience (obviously purposefully).
It’s not efficiency DOGE is after, it’s regulations that affect billionaires negatively.
Not the narrative MAGA wants to spread
Well it was efficient…
It was so clear from the start that these clowns had zero clue. They know so little about how things actually work yet they confidently think they can do better. Maybe a bunch of college-age broccoli bros don’t actually know as much as seasoned professionals and things exist the way they do for reasons beyond your minimal understanding.
I’ve worked with so many of these types of Dunning-Kruger losers in my career. „Just do it this way bro, trust me bro“ when you have no understanding of the subtleties of the situation or the business drivers that dictate why things are how they are. Stay in your lane.
It’s baffling to me how successful Trump and Musk have been in terms of hoodwinking voters. Their own cults would never abandon them even if the two of them shot cultists’ relatives in plain sight, but centrists, swing voters, infrequent voters, whatever, I just don’t understand. They’ve been so embarrassingly pranked when it comes to DOGE and government waste and they still don’t seem like they’re waking up.
It’s a reverse Truman Committee. The Truman Committee found that contractors for military housing were corrupt and they saved money by having the Army Corps of Engineers build housing. Now we will have the funding redirected to corrupt and wasteful contractors.
Yeah, that’s BS — Nobody’s floored by the efficiency of government. What they don’t get is that Government isn’t the pinnacle of efficiency sometimes for good reason. You can have a GW Bush, Obama or Trump-1 as president — the machinery keeps working. Bureaucracy is critical to government, as government can’t change fundamenal rules every 5 days. You need career people who don’t owe loyalty to a person or party for their jobs, and can afford to do their jobs for the benefit of citizens.
Our department literally runs on minimal staff. Every new administration comes in and tries to hit us with cuts and new software and methods. We’re so much quicker than our contractors that it’s a little absurd. They literally complained we had too many electric vehicle charging stations. I’m pretty sure we had none.
Waste, excessive redundancy, glacial pace? Probably could find a decent amount of that. Abuse? Only by individuals and corporations abusing grants, loan forgiveness, and tax law.
Yep. The fact is what „abuse“ there is literally amounts to fraction of a fraction of the overall national debt or even overall budget.
Is this really all because of one line of dialog from the movie independence Day?
Next they’ll be amazed at how they couldn’t find any cat boxes or surgical theaters in public schools.
Having read his interview and his blog, it’s so frustrating to me we have these very smart guys who are so arrogant that they think they can come into these huge, complex, old organizations and „fix“ them essentially overnight.
Oh, this guy doesn’t come across as an arrogant narcissist or anything, but the idea that you just come in and don’t bother getting the lay of the land, learn what tools are or are not available, what the laws and regulatory requirements are, what the processes are and **why** they are the way they are – it just screams a lack of humility. I wouldn’t go into a tech company and start demanding they use the tools and processes I used in my previous, *completely unrelated* career field.
Well it aint anymore…
that’s because Abuse and Fraud is just white code for your money is being wasted on fraudulent black and brown people
The issue is never money. Its never efficiency. Its all about what we choose to fund and what we dont choose to fund. We have the capability to provide healthcare for people. We have the ability to provide opportunities for people. We simply choose not to.
Right…so the next thing they’ll try to sell me is that Biden didn’t let in billions of undocumented people across the southern border.
/s
Still, had to cut tens of thousands of jobs. Can’t cripple infrastructures by leaving the efficient to their work.
The MAGAs will believe that the average government employee would commit major felonies but the politicians taking bribes could never do such a thing.
How incredibly f*****g r*******d do you have to be to not even think about the conflict of interest? And I consider myself naive.
I recall some saying “He’s a billionaire, yet he’s doing it for free”
First of all.
1) Things he immediately did are directly related to his businesses
2) Once you reach billionaire status, what you are after that point is power not money.
As backwards as this sounds…get this guy on Rogan. That’s one of the few platforms that would actually let this sink in.
That’s b/c doge employees are ignorant children with no fucking clue about their own privilege or how the world really works.
The government is extremely efficient where it needs or wants to be and it is inefficient where it needs to or wants to be.
If you look at anything you would call inefficient in the government, there is a chain of decisions, often leading back to an legislator or party or corporate interest that wants it to be that way.
Isn’t that just wonderful. Better let the never fit here? Musk was doing what he was told/hired to do by, the ruiner of harmony. We are about to feel the need for calm reality.
The biggest inefficiencies are things conservatives force the government to do, like mandating that the government contract out every other random function so small businesses don’t have their little feelings hurt.
No shit. A lot of governments do have waste but many departments are lean as they come, hiring contractors and part timers — at hours short of full time to legally save money on benefits
Their entire view of the problem is informed by how much we paid the military industrial complex for nails in 1989.
This is probably a sign of how poorly conceived the DOGE effort was.
There probably are some problems. How could there not be?
But DOGE didn’t get enough buy-in to find the problems; it just knocked out people at random.
“How efficient the government was” 🤣ok. As a government employee I can assure you this is complete bs