Hey alle, alle,
Ich bin ein hobbyistischer Holzarbeiter in den USA, der die traditionelle deutsche Gesellenholzhose liebt. Außerdem sind sie unbestreitbar krank wie die Hölle.
Ich dachte darüber nach, ein Paar zu kaufen und es an mich zu verschicken, aber angesichts der Tatsache, dass die Traditionen und die kulturelle Bedeutung der wandernden Ausbildung ein Punkt des Stolzes für die Menschen zu sein scheint, die es durchgehen, wollte ich keinen kulturellen Fehler machen und etwas kaufen, das als Verdienst angesehen werden muss.
Ich denke, meine Frage ist, wäre es in Ordnung, diese zu tragen, obwohl ich die Lehrlingsausbildung nicht durchgehen oder Teil einer traditionellen Gilde sein werde?
Ich würde es für einen deutschen Holzarbeiter hassen, mich der gestohlenen Tapferkeit oder so etwas zu beschuldigen 😂
https://i.redd.it/lthoh0zou0we1.jpeg
Von HopefulHoldee
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Now that i look at it like that, that kinda looks fire, espicially taking new trends into account
>I’d hate for a German woodworker to accuse me of stolen valor or something 😂
„Stolen valor“ is not a thing in Germany. If you like those pants buy them.
Go for it
Funny think is that the design especially with the zippers was originaly from shipmakers to help prevent drowning so all the other wood professions stole this style themselves at some point haha
Wearing a full „Kluft“ (so the full getup) could be considered rude by some in Germany because you’d be posing as someone with an accreditation which you don’t actually have. But considering you’re talking about just the pants and also considering you’re in the US – where the journeyman system doesn’t really exist – nobody’s going to mistake you for an actual journeyman. So you’re not someone posing but someone interested in the journeyman culture, which is commendable in my book. I’d say go for it.
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This will be okay in the US. Very unlikely to ever meet a German Wandergsell anyway, but If it happens, you will have something to talk.
It is indeed uncommon to wear them If youre not a craftsman in Germany. Some people in the alternative scene still do, i think thats okay, but only for people who really do something. If its only fashion, it seems awkward.
I was a German Carpenter myself, i dont wear them anymore because i have become i’ll and cant work anymore. I liked them when i was still fit, but now i think If would still wear them, it would Not be approproate anymore.
When i once was in france and belgium, i wore such trousers, but was frowned upon because some people there dont Like the German journeymen in their country. Maybe have had Bad experiences, some behave disorderly, or did not meet the expectations in work quality in these countries. There are also many weirdos and boasters among them nowadays.
Edith: If you wear these trousers, wear them for woodworking and do youre work well enough to deserve wearing them. Noone will accuse you for cultural appropriation then, especially Not on another continent. There are said to be Not more than 500 orderly Wanderers (per year? There are No statistics) around anymore in the world. Have you ever met one?
no need to think too much about it. worst that could happen is that people think you know a bit about woodworking.
a traditional dress is required while on the walz, but it’s not a sign that someone has done a walz, especially if it’s just the pants.
the pants by themselves are also worn by other craftspeople. both professionally and casually. definitely a niche thing, but not unheard of.
You can easily wear that. But is the one in the pic from eiko? I had that, ripped apart after 3 months work. I would recommend using braces with them. I had better experiences with FHB.
But the best quality would be the pants from kurt gaden: https://kurtgaden.de/Zunftkleidung/Zunfthosen/KUGA-Manchester-Zunfthose-Schwarz.html
Flared trousers means “Schlaghose” in german. So if you want them you have to choose the ones with the 60cm
Also: black is for woodworkers (joiners, carpenters, roofers), brown is for steinmetze (guys that work with stones, doing gravestones etc) and i dont know the other ones haha
Now I want to have something again. These look so cool. Coming from a female here.
Check out Strauss if you wanna good quality work wear – https://www.strauss.com/de/de/bundhosen-zunft/e-s-zunfthose-grobcord-m-65er-schlag-3000180-82480-1.html It’s worth the extra euro !
Similar to how wearing a Camo or field jacket doesn’t mean you’re impersonating a veteran or soldier, you won’t get any complaints about wearing a carpenter’s trousers. It’s completely fine. Wearing the full outfit would be weird, and maybe a little offensive to some (in Germany ) if you weren’t actually into carpeting or wood working. But you are ! So if anything the German Carpenters will feel appreciated and most would probably really like knowing that there are people in the whole world who see them as icons.