“China’s got a lot of goals in the world,” Times Opinion columnist Thomas Friedman says in this episode of “The Ezra Klein Show.” “But one of them is not spreading authoritarian Marxism. OK? They’re trying to spread Muskism, not Marxism. That’s the game they’re trying to beat us at. They’re trying to beat us at our game — not Karl Marx’s game. And we need to understand that and be serious about it.”
We, the people, will lose way before Trump, unfortunately.
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Enjoyed reading this conversation! It also gives a first hand account of how advanced China actually is.
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Very interesting discussion. Friedman is absolutely correct that this is a trade war with no strategy because it is run wholly by unserious people. The China-US relationship was not sustainable, but this is the laziest and most ignorant way to attempt to change it.
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“China’s got a lot of goals in the world,” Times Opinion columnist Thomas Friedman says in this episode of “The Ezra Klein Show.” “But one of them is not spreading authoritarian Marxism. OK? They’re trying to spread Muskism, not Marxism. That’s the game they’re trying to beat us at. They’re trying to beat us at our game — not Karl Marx’s game. And we need to understand that and be serious about it.”
Watch, read or listen to the full podcast [here, for free](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/15/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-thomas-friedman.html?unlocked_article_code=1._04.MW3R.p7J1wVwG6Q2R&smid=re-nytopinion), even without a Times subscription.
We, the people, will lose way before Trump, unfortunately.
Enjoyed reading this conversation! It also gives a first hand account of how advanced China actually is.
Very interesting discussion. Friedman is absolutely correct that this is a trade war with no strategy because it is run wholly by unserious people. The China-US relationship was not sustainable, but this is the laziest and most ignorant way to attempt to change it.