Militärische Gewalt wird nicht notwendig sein, sagt Vance bei Grönlandbesuch

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    1. TimesandSundayTimes on

      JD Vance has said the US has no plans for a military takeover of Greenland as he urged the Arctic island to seek independence from Denmark for its own safety and partner with Washington.

      The vice-president was joined by his wife, Usha, and Mike Waltz, the national security adviser, on a tour of a US military base on the semi-autonomous Danish territory during a trip that has provoked anger among locals.

      Speaking to troops at the US Space Force outpost at Pituffik on Friday afternoon, he criticised Denmark for “under-investing” in Greenland’s security.

      “Our message to Denmark is simple, you have not done a good job for the people of Greenland. This is why Trump’s policy is what it is,” Vance said, blaming America’s Nato ally for decades of decline.

      “You have underinvested in the security architecture of this incredible, beautiful landmass … That simply must change. It is the policy of the United States that that will change.”

      Vance continued: “What we think is going to happen is that the Greenlanders are going to choose — through self-determination — to become independent of Denmark. And then we’re going to have conversations with the people of Greenland from there.

      “We do not think military force is ever going to be necessary.”

    2. You need to seek independence for your own safety.

      Safety from what?

      Safety from what I would do to you if you don’t seek safety.

    3. yourmomwasmyfirst on

      If military force is off the table, what was the benefit in bringing it up in the first place. Just throwing away credibility and good will for no reason, it drives me insane.

    4. > JD Vance has said the US has no plans for a military takeover of Greenland as he urged the Arctic island to seek independence from Denmark for its own safety and partner with Washington.

      Washington is already partnered with its NATO ally, Denmark.

    5. ApostleofV8 on

      >The vice-president, travelling with his wife, Usha, said he believed Greenlanders would choose to become independent of Denmark

      They are already de-facto indepedent, Bowman. Doesnt mean they wanna become the 51st state (or just a territory).

    6. BrokenManOfSamarkand on

      I wonder how a guy as smart as Vance feels having to wake up and say some really stupid ass shit everyday.

    7. If military force won’t be necessary then Denmark should make it a necessity for annexation so that it won’t happen. But even when the French offered soldiers Denmark refused. And they want to even buy more f-35s. After getting called a bad ally despite being among the first to join the invasion of Iraq and letting the US use them to spy on European neighbors, in addition to of course being threatened with military annexation.

      Stockholm syndrome the country.

    8. FriendlyWebGuy on

      Neither Russia nor China have *anywhere near* the capability to threaten the territorial integrity—or people—of Greenland. They just don’t. The notion is laughable.

      Furthermore, since Greenland is NATO territory, any Russian or Chinese incursions would result in WWIII. For what? It would take *years* to set up mining operations and those operations (plus any removal of resources via shipping) would be easy bombing targets. It’s just not viable.

      Let’s be clear. There is zero military risk to Greenland. None.

      The only threat to their peoples right now are from American oligarchs.

    9. SeniorTrainee on

      Of course it won’t be necessary and is not planned, otherwise it would have leaked already.

    10. Responsible_Tea4587 on

      Maybe if they tone down their racist rhetoric, Greenlanders might express some desire to join the US. Denmark itself is a very racist place, I wouldn‘t want to be a part of it if I were a Greenlander.

    11. hell_jumper9 on

      Denmark along with other EU countries better garrison Greenland now. You don’t want it to suffer a Crimean style takeover.

    12. I like how they assume the rest of the world is as stupid as their maga base…

    13. Mysterious-Fix2896 on

      The fox is asking the chicken to seek independence from the chicken coop, so he can conversate with the chicken about its safety

    14. „this incredible, beautiful landmass“

      Who even talks like that? 

      A guy who can’t order Donuts. That’s who.

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