As a member of rural America, I can say that Starlink is spreading like wildfire here because it works, it’s available, and it’s a reasonable cost.
Perhaps if the Former Broadband Director had a solution beyond his laughable suggestion that rural America needs to be wired for fiber, he wouldn’t be in this position.
drdailey on
Is this the director that accomplished nothing?
LadyMhicWheels on
T-Mobile just made a big mistake. They said they are partnering with Starlink.
Glennonator on
What is this?
Who’s listening to the ex anything.
Let’s enjoy the content from the people in the comments
You are the news.
bigj4155 on
The overall problem is that like most thing Musk does there is just no competition so people get all feeling a special kinda way. Im a rural person that works in IT and is will aware of the cost to lay fiber. Starlink is by far a cheaper option and ultimately will work for 98% of people. Would I prefer fiber? yup. Does Starlink give you a 15-35ms ping and respectable bandwidth? yup.
I waited 7 years to get fiber after it was announced. I would have paid anything for internet and ultimately I would have starlink now if the Ukraine war did not start „my area was rolling out starlink when all new launches went to cover Ukraine“ but fiber just so happen to get installed during the delay.
Shrug, there is nothing comparable to Starlink. All other providers have horrible pings and shit data caps. Anyone is free to launch to LEO and provide similiar service…. But they dont, they go the cheap ass route and launch way way out there so they can have very few satellites to cover huge areas. Hughs Net is not a functional internet.
Dr_Clee_Torres on
It’s been interesting seeing the attacks on this guy role out but this is laughable…. Anyone who is actual boots on the ground in rural America has praised Starlink to no end. Beyond the dependable connectivity the quick start up and low barrier to acquisition for rural land is what makes the product leaps and bounds ahead of wired connections. It actually helps lower the development costs for areas where new wire would need to be trenched and placed.
thor561 on
Wonder how he feels about the billions given to telecoms to build out rural fiber who took the money and then did precisely fuck-all with it?
This is much less of a Musk/Starlink thing than it is a, companies have been grifting for decades on the promise of rural broadband thing. As someone who is about to move to a rural area and happens to know a fiber trunk line runs directly parallel to the road in front of his house, and still can’t get fiber service, I’m all too familiar with how the traditional telcos milked the American people for billions for years and years now.
Frankly, this guy sucked at his job.
click_licker on
I don’t like starlink but the whole broadband in rural America plans have not been very successful and looks like a ton of waste lies, and dare I say, yeah probably some fraud.
My parents live out in the boonies. One internet option „fiber,“.
Runs through old phone lines.
They are lucky to get 2 megs per second speeds.
They pay $80 a month.
But they don’t have any other options.
xxxx69420xx on
Yeah fuck Comcast giving contracts to hugesnet to undermine putting in new lines so America’s infrastructure isn’t shit. If only there was good space internet
the__party__man on
20 years in the ISP business. Hardline ISP is not effective at connecting rural America. The cost per mile + upkeep + franchise fees > return revenue.
Plus factor in FCC fines for not being able to repair outages due to storm damage in a timely manner….Let Starlink have at it.
zaku49 on
I am sorry, but starlink is the only real option. Everything else that we have been throwing money at hasn’t been working.
Mammoth_Professor833 on
This guy is bought and paid for. Starlink is 100x cheaper and provides faster and more reliable service. If people come out against Starlink it’s obvious they are bought or clueless…or both
VibeComplex on
It’s straight up corruption lol. Like, probably one of the most obvious cases of corruption I’ve ever seen.
_Tar_Ar_Ais_ on
lol, the rural america that gets screwed over by these companies taking in billions and doing nothing about it?
Dogsinabathtub on
…then provide a better solution for rural America. Seems pretty simple. Anything other than comes off like whining
Lurker_81 on
It’s easy to jump in the anti-Musk train with this one.
However, Starlink is genuinely a more practical and cost effective solution for a lot of rural situations where fixed line infrastructure will never be financially viable, especially when ongoing maintenance is also considered.
Moreover, the big broadband companies have outright rorted this situation for decades and have pocketed billions in funding without lifting a finger.
So yes, they’re trading one oligarchy for another – but at least people will get decent internet into the bargain.
ShakeWeightMyDick on
Lol, as if Trump of Musk gave the least of shits about rural America. What a fucking joke. Why would rural America think Trump would give a shit about them? lol what a joke
PogTuber on
Honestly, they shouldn’t have wasted the goddamn money the first time they got it to improve infrastructure. Instead they monopolized the market and left everyone with shitty service.
At this point I have a tiny violin for the money they’re not going to get and waste, even if I think Elon is full demon choad.
FaceThief9000 on
It’s self-dealing, it’s illegal, he should be deported and have all his assets seized.
BigBabooshki on
funny how this is what r/space is talking about in regards to Elon today. Sacrificing your own culture to own Elon. Who cares if Elon owns SpaceX, it was cool. You don’t even have to mention the words Elon or SpaceX to post something on the retrieval. At the end of the post, repeat ‚fuck Elon he’s a nazi‘ n times if that’s what’s needed to post it
TheNinjaDC on
I feel both Starlink and SpaceX will be getting a lot more contracts. And less directly because Musk demands it, but more because the removal of competition initiatives. Where contracts are not exclusively given to one company even if they are the best, but split up between several to boost competition.
These initiatives and policies will be rolled back in the name of cost saving. But will also mean Starlink and SpaceX get a significant boost in contracts as they are by far the best on their industry. Which will be better in the short term, but lead to a drop in competition the long term.
MyBigToeJam on
Regardless of infrastructure, to me, reliance on all things from one man gives one person a chokehold on the country’s security and choices. How many instances have coincidentally become doors opened to his business or personal preferences? United States of What?
Stardustquarks on
Everything this admin does including lap dog musk is a betrayal to not only rural America, but all of America. Fuck Trump, Fuck Musk
Eskareon on
holy shit I love corporatist billionaires now because they agree that Elon is a meanie poopie head
Why the fuck is this in r/space again?
The_Real_Manimal on
They sure are getting what they voted for.
Also, little like the pot calling the kettle black; where’d those billions in taxpayer money go that were meant for the nationwide installation of fiber cable? You know, the taxpayer money you were given on two different occasions, but delivered none of, and faced zero consequences for??
Decronym on
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[FCC](/r/Space/comments/1jfb3am/stub/mipm2xj „Last usage“)|Federal Communications Commission|
| |(Iron/steel) [Face-Centered Cubic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_iron) crystalline structure|
|[Isp](/r/Space/comments/1jfb3am/stub/mipm2xj „Last usage“)|Specific impulse (as explained by [Scott Manley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnisTeYLLgs) on YouTube)|
| |Internet Service Provider|
|[LEO](/r/Space/comments/1jfb3am/stub/mipkp3o „Last usage“)|Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)|
| |Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)|
26 Kommentare
As a member of rural America, I can say that Starlink is spreading like wildfire here because it works, it’s available, and it’s a reasonable cost.
Perhaps if the Former Broadband Director had a solution beyond his laughable suggestion that rural America needs to be wired for fiber, he wouldn’t be in this position.
Is this the director that accomplished nothing?
T-Mobile just made a big mistake. They said they are partnering with Starlink.
What is this?
Who’s listening to the ex anything.
Let’s enjoy the content from the people in the comments
You are the news.
The overall problem is that like most thing Musk does there is just no competition so people get all feeling a special kinda way. Im a rural person that works in IT and is will aware of the cost to lay fiber. Starlink is by far a cheaper option and ultimately will work for 98% of people. Would I prefer fiber? yup. Does Starlink give you a 15-35ms ping and respectable bandwidth? yup.
I waited 7 years to get fiber after it was announced. I would have paid anything for internet and ultimately I would have starlink now if the Ukraine war did not start „my area was rolling out starlink when all new launches went to cover Ukraine“ but fiber just so happen to get installed during the delay.
Shrug, there is nothing comparable to Starlink. All other providers have horrible pings and shit data caps. Anyone is free to launch to LEO and provide similiar service…. But they dont, they go the cheap ass route and launch way way out there so they can have very few satellites to cover huge areas. Hughs Net is not a functional internet.
It’s been interesting seeing the attacks on this guy role out but this is laughable…. Anyone who is actual boots on the ground in rural America has praised Starlink to no end. Beyond the dependable connectivity the quick start up and low barrier to acquisition for rural land is what makes the product leaps and bounds ahead of wired connections. It actually helps lower the development costs for areas where new wire would need to be trenched and placed.
Wonder how he feels about the billions given to telecoms to build out rural fiber who took the money and then did precisely fuck-all with it?
Funny, the article doesn’t mention that.
[https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/the-42-billion-internet-program-that-has-connected-0-people](https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/the-42-billion-internet-program-that-has-connected-0-people)
[https://techpolicyinstitute.org/publications/broadband/rural-broadband-subsidies-the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/](https://techpolicyinstitute.org/publications/broadband/rural-broadband-subsidies-the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/)
This is much less of a Musk/Starlink thing than it is a, companies have been grifting for decades on the promise of rural broadband thing. As someone who is about to move to a rural area and happens to know a fiber trunk line runs directly parallel to the road in front of his house, and still can’t get fiber service, I’m all too familiar with how the traditional telcos milked the American people for billions for years and years now.
Frankly, this guy sucked at his job.
I don’t like starlink but the whole broadband in rural America plans have not been very successful and looks like a ton of waste lies, and dare I say, yeah probably some fraud.
My parents live out in the boonies. One internet option „fiber,“.
Runs through old phone lines.
They are lucky to get 2 megs per second speeds.
They pay $80 a month.
But they don’t have any other options.
Yeah fuck Comcast giving contracts to hugesnet to undermine putting in new lines so America’s infrastructure isn’t shit. If only there was good space internet
20 years in the ISP business. Hardline ISP is not effective at connecting rural America. The cost per mile + upkeep + franchise fees > return revenue.
Plus factor in FCC fines for not being able to repair outages due to storm damage in a timely manner….Let Starlink have at it.
I am sorry, but starlink is the only real option. Everything else that we have been throwing money at hasn’t been working.
This guy is bought and paid for. Starlink is 100x cheaper and provides faster and more reliable service. If people come out against Starlink it’s obvious they are bought or clueless…or both
It’s straight up corruption lol. Like, probably one of the most obvious cases of corruption I’ve ever seen.
lol, the rural america that gets screwed over by these companies taking in billions and doing nothing about it?
…then provide a better solution for rural America. Seems pretty simple. Anything other than comes off like whining
It’s easy to jump in the anti-Musk train with this one.
However, Starlink is genuinely a more practical and cost effective solution for a lot of rural situations where fixed line infrastructure will never be financially viable, especially when ongoing maintenance is also considered.
Moreover, the big broadband companies have outright rorted this situation for decades and have pocketed billions in funding without lifting a finger.
So yes, they’re trading one oligarchy for another – but at least people will get decent internet into the bargain.
Lol, as if Trump of Musk gave the least of shits about rural America. What a fucking joke. Why would rural America think Trump would give a shit about them? lol what a joke
Honestly, they shouldn’t have wasted the goddamn money the first time they got it to improve infrastructure. Instead they monopolized the market and left everyone with shitty service.
At this point I have a tiny violin for the money they’re not going to get and waste, even if I think Elon is full demon choad.
It’s self-dealing, it’s illegal, he should be deported and have all his assets seized.
funny how this is what r/space is talking about in regards to Elon today. Sacrificing your own culture to own Elon. Who cares if Elon owns SpaceX, it was cool. You don’t even have to mention the words Elon or SpaceX to post something on the retrieval. At the end of the post, repeat ‚fuck Elon he’s a nazi‘ n times if that’s what’s needed to post it
I feel both Starlink and SpaceX will be getting a lot more contracts. And less directly because Musk demands it, but more because the removal of competition initiatives. Where contracts are not exclusively given to one company even if they are the best, but split up between several to boost competition.
These initiatives and policies will be rolled back in the name of cost saving. But will also mean Starlink and SpaceX get a significant boost in contracts as they are by far the best on their industry. Which will be better in the short term, but lead to a drop in competition the long term.
Regardless of infrastructure, to me, reliance on all things from one man gives one person a chokehold on the country’s security and choices. How many instances have coincidentally become doors opened to his business or personal preferences? United States of What?
Everything this admin does including lap dog musk is a betrayal to not only rural America, but all of America. Fuck Trump, Fuck Musk
holy shit I love corporatist billionaires now because they agree that Elon is a meanie poopie head
Why the fuck is this in r/space again?
They sure are getting what they voted for.
Also, little like the pot calling the kettle black; where’d those billions in taxpayer money go that were meant for the nationwide installation of fiber cable? You know, the taxpayer money you were given on two different occasions, but delivered none of, and faced zero consequences for??
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[FCC](/r/Space/comments/1jfb3am/stub/mipm2xj „Last usage“)|Federal Communications Commission|
| |(Iron/steel) [Face-Centered Cubic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_iron) crystalline structure|
|[Isp](/r/Space/comments/1jfb3am/stub/mipm2xj „Last usage“)|Specific impulse (as explained by [Scott Manley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnisTeYLLgs) on YouTube)|
| |Internet Service Provider|
|[LEO](/r/Space/comments/1jfb3am/stub/mipkp3o „Last usage“)|Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)|
| |Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/1jfb3am/stub/mips3ud „Last usage“)|SpaceX’s world-wide satellite broadband constellation|
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