Also lebte ich ca. 1,5 Jahre in einem WG und der Boden hatte bereits einige Flecken, die ich beim Einziehen nicht bemerkte. Nachdem er jetzt ausgezogen war, schickt er mir diese Rechnung zusammen mit diesen Fotos und bittet mich, ihm 1800 Euro für den Schaden zu bezahlen. Dazu gibt er meine Vorsicht nicht zurück, die er sagt, dass er in die Schäden einbezogen wird. Er weiß, dass ich eine Haftpflichtversicherung habe und sagte mir, ich solle ihnen die Details dafür schicken. Außerdem haben wir keine übergähne, als ich die WG verließ. Er machte diese Fotos, während ich alle meine Dinge in meine neue Wohnung verlagerte, und er kam ohne mein Wissen im Raum herein. Ich habe den ganzen Raum gereinigt, nachdem ich alle Dinge verschoben hatte. Hier füge ich hier alle Details als Referenz hinzu.
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Von AgentNo
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I am not expert and you might want to talk to a lawyer or your local Mieterverein if he doesn’t respond too well.
However, I am quite sure it is not legal. It seems like he is trying to charge you for completly replacing the carpet. At most he could charge you the timely value, which depends on how old the carpet is. And even that might be too much considering the small stains are not excessive usage. I think if the carpet is over ten years old, it basically has no value anymore anyway and you can’t be charged for replacing it.
But you might want to do some research, draft a rebuttal letter and if that doesn’t help you will need legal help.
Contact your local mieterverein and become a member and calm down and don’t do anything rash.
I can’t give you exact advice. Some people say the ground is liability of the landlord and I lean towards that but it’s best you have someone that will write a kind but definitive letter to your landlord. What’s also important is the date he sent this to you. He only has half a year to claim any damages
Imo there’s a number of problems with what your landlord is doing:
1) No Übergabeprotokoll. If there’s no record of what the apartment looked like when you moved out, then they can‘t bill you for anything.
2) Completely replacing the carpet with vinyl because of stains isn‘t an economical repair. The landlord can only bill you for the cheapest repair possible (Sparsamkeitsprinzip).
3) The document they sent you isn’t an invoice, but an offer. They need an actual invoice to pass the costs onto you.
It looks to me like the landlord is trying to get you to pay for renovations that are completely their responsibility.
If I were you I‘d write a registered letter to the landlord confirming receipt of his request and denying payment due the three points above.
Some things seem unclear to me: 10 m² carpet = 1400€? Shipping: 408€?
Did you try to clean the carpet? DM lends professional carpet cleaners which work quite well.
Having to pay for the whole floor replacement defenitely is sketchy. I assume the floor was already used when you moved in? Then you are only obliged to pay for the remaining value of the floor when you moved in.
What he is trying to do, is get you cover the complete cost for a floor renovation.
So as others stated: Mieterschutzbund is one place to go. It involves a fee for joining and a yearly fee of around 100€ I think. However that should be not too much compared to what your landlord wants.
Besides that your insurance likely is also not a bad idea to conact. It is within their interest, not to pay more money than necessary, so they should also double check if it is correct that all the costs should be covered by you.
Sidenote: I would always avoid flats with carpeted floors. They are notoriously difficoult to keep properly clean. I would not want to walk around in stains from the previous tenant. Besides that: stains are probably even considered normal tear and wear, which is basically included in your rent.
If the floor is not actually damaged, but only dirty, one might argue a replacement is not needed and a professional cleaning would suffice. This could also be an argument made to your landlord. You could agree to cover the costs of a floor cleaning service. If he then takes the money into replacing the floor at once, thats his decision
No I didn’t. I left the apartment in September and shifted to my new place from 1st October. He told me that I shouldn’t clean the carpet because he will clean it later himself. But after that he just rented the room again to one of my acquaintances and he is living there ever since
Go to the tenants‘ association (Mieterbund/Verein ) and ask for advice. The landlord cannot hold you completely responsible for having to replace a 10-year-old carpet. In addition, the list of services is quite inflated. I don’t see leveling and leveling the floor as a consequence of your use. Why the edge insulation strip? It is laid when a new screed is poured. Someone has gone to a lot of trouble here to generate a lot of costs. The landlord is trying to carry out a regular
Carpet cleaning never costs that much money. He wants you to pay for the whole carpet. Get a lawyer.
Hell no, with the way that floor looks it was not new 1,5 years ago. Mieterschutzbund or lawyer asap
Mieterverein. Yesterday
Mate, you could’ve at least taken the beer bottles out if the pictures. 😄