>Azerbaijani pro-government news agency Report cited Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov as saying negotiations on the text of the deal had been completed.
>The terms of deal have not yet been made public, and Armenia is yet to comment.
>Bayramov suggested they expected changes to the Armenian constitution that have long been a demanded from Baku would not be included in the initial deal.
>An unnamed Western official with knowledge of the topic told OC Media that the agreement included major concessions from Armenia, including the removal of EU monitors from the border and the dropping of lawsuits in international venues.
>The official said the deal left out other sticking points, including the issue of enclaves in Armenia and Azerbaijan that have been occupied by the other side since the fall of the Soviet Union.
>It also reportedly does not include Azerbaijan’s demand for a corridor through Armenia connecting Azerbaijan to its enclave of Nakhchivan.
>Armenia’s Foreign Ministry has told OC Media that it will issue a statement on the matter shortly.
>A spokesperson for the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the terms of the deal.
Well, this is fucked.
Literally 0 guarantees or concessions from az, and Armenia steps down in every matter.
ButtIron on
The removal of the EU monitors has 0 value for Az unless their intention is to violate the agreement. That’s fucked.
Hummof on
fake news? or no
WiseLunch1927 on
As soon as armenia and azerbaijan sign a peace agreement, azerbaijan israel turkey are gonna balkanize iran.
khachdallak on
Agreeing on removal of EU monitors from the border is a concession that’s not going to have good consequences. Very good negotiating – just slowly agreeing on everything demanded – the art of deal
OneHandsomeMan on
Armenia is such a beautiful country with beautiful kind people .wish them peace and prosperity
Ok-Worker5781 on
If they’ve agreed then why don’t they just sign it
Mk7GTI818 on
I don’t get the point of this, with the EU observers at the border it has been a lot more peaceful and AZ was scared of the consequences but now with this deal the chance of an escalation is higher than before. The peace deal will have the opposite effect.
dssevag on
And other news sources, like CivilNet and News.am, are saying something completely different.
Yet, nothing from the Armenian side. This means one of two things: either Armenia has reached some sort of agreement with Europe, prompting these noises, or, in true Pashinyan fashion, he will make a statement philosophically explaining the true meaning of Armenia without actually addressing the agreement itself.
T-nash on
If the exclaves are not mentioned in the agreement, removing the EU border monitor means Azerbaijan will claim we are occupying their land and either demand to move Azerbaijani settlers in there, for obvious reasons, or outright invade for „liberation“, the imbalance of the army and weapon purchase power means we can’t do the same for our exclave.
Full_Friendship_8769 on
Azerbaijan’s perspective:
1. Agree to some concessions to Armenia
2. ~~Make sure that they remove the EU monitors in exchange~~
3. ~~Now you can do everything you wanted but couldn’t put into the „peace“ agreement (including concessions from point 1), because nothing will stop you~~
4. invade
5. Profit
hedonismpro on
Besides Armenia agreeing to yet another concession of removing the EU observers, this news is much less significant than people are making out.
Az are still insisting on constitutional changes and the dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group, and won’t sign a deal until those demands are met.
Little has actually changed. Just another humiliating post-2020 day.
True_Fake_Mongolia on
Over the past five years, such news that the two sides have reached consensus on some aspects has appeared every month, and the situation has not been fundamentally eased. Considering that Azerbaijan is still carrying out war propaganda and both sides are buying weapons and building up their armies on a large scale, it is too optimistic to think that peace will be guaranteed soon. Words often cannot explain the real situation, and actions are what really matters.
The withdrawal of EU observers does not mean that peace is being achieved. It is more likely that the balance of power between the Armenian and Azerbaijani armies is changing, and that Armenia’s military strength is sufficient to deter the Azerbaijani army. Therefore, Western Europeans are no longer needed as human shields, and this situation will become more and more obvious as time goes by.
Gandelfian on
No mention of the areas AZ is currently occupying…
99Years0Fears on
How can they make any deal without the return of the Armenians who have been kidnapped by Azerbaijan.
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>Azerbaijani pro-government news agency Report cited Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov as saying negotiations on the text of the deal had been completed.
>The terms of deal have not yet been made public, and Armenia is yet to comment.
>Bayramov suggested they expected changes to the Armenian constitution that have long been a demanded from Baku would not be included in the initial deal.
>An unnamed Western official with knowledge of the topic told OC Media that the agreement included major concessions from Armenia, including the removal of EU monitors from the border and the dropping of lawsuits in international venues.
>The official said the deal left out other sticking points, including the issue of enclaves in Armenia and Azerbaijan that have been occupied by the other side since the fall of the Soviet Union.
>It also reportedly does not include Azerbaijan’s demand for a corridor through Armenia connecting Azerbaijan to its enclave of Nakhchivan.
>Armenia’s Foreign Ministry has told OC Media that it will issue a statement on the matter shortly.
>A spokesperson for the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the terms of the deal.
Edit: confirmed by Armenian MFA https://www.reddit.com/r/armenia/s/MC7LIGDy36
Well, this is fucked.
Literally 0 guarantees or concessions from az, and Armenia steps down in every matter.
The removal of the EU monitors has 0 value for Az unless their intention is to violate the agreement. That’s fucked.
fake news? or no
As soon as armenia and azerbaijan sign a peace agreement, azerbaijan israel turkey are gonna balkanize iran.
Agreeing on removal of EU monitors from the border is a concession that’s not going to have good consequences. Very good negotiating – just slowly agreeing on everything demanded – the art of deal
Armenia is such a beautiful country with beautiful kind people .wish them peace and prosperity
If they’ve agreed then why don’t they just sign it
I don’t get the point of this, with the EU observers at the border it has been a lot more peaceful and AZ was scared of the consequences but now with this deal the chance of an escalation is higher than before. The peace deal will have the opposite effect.
And other news sources, like CivilNet and News.am, are saying something completely different.
https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/822007/yerevan-baku-agree-on-full-text-of-normalization-deal-azeri-fm-says/
https://news.am/eng/news/871447.html
Yet, nothing from the Armenian side. This means one of two things: either Armenia has reached some sort of agreement with Europe, prompting these noises, or, in true Pashinyan fashion, he will make a statement philosophically explaining the true meaning of Armenia without actually addressing the agreement itself.
If the exclaves are not mentioned in the agreement, removing the EU border monitor means Azerbaijan will claim we are occupying their land and either demand to move Azerbaijani settlers in there, for obvious reasons, or outright invade for „liberation“, the imbalance of the army and weapon purchase power means we can’t do the same for our exclave.
Azerbaijan’s perspective:
1. Agree to some concessions to Armenia
2. ~~Make sure that they remove the EU monitors in exchange~~
3. ~~Now you can do everything you wanted but couldn’t put into the „peace“ agreement (including concessions from point 1), because nothing will stop you~~
4. invade
5. Profit
Besides Armenia agreeing to yet another concession of removing the EU observers, this news is much less significant than people are making out.
Az are still insisting on constitutional changes and the dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group, and won’t sign a deal until those demands are met.
Little has actually changed. Just another humiliating post-2020 day.
Over the past five years, such news that the two sides have reached consensus on some aspects has appeared every month, and the situation has not been fundamentally eased. Considering that Azerbaijan is still carrying out war propaganda and both sides are buying weapons and building up their armies on a large scale, it is too optimistic to think that peace will be guaranteed soon. Words often cannot explain the real situation, and actions are what really matters.
The withdrawal of EU observers does not mean that peace is being achieved. It is more likely that the balance of power between the Armenian and Azerbaijani armies is changing, and that Armenia’s military strength is sufficient to deter the Azerbaijani army. Therefore, Western Europeans are no longer needed as human shields, and this situation will become more and more obvious as time goes by.
No mention of the areas AZ is currently occupying…
How can they make any deal without the return of the Armenians who have been kidnapped by Azerbaijan.