Amerikas alternde Bevölkerung hat einen wachsenden Mangel an geriatrischer Versorgung

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    1. thisisinsider on

      **TLDR:**

      * **There’s a growing problem for older Americans: doctors who specialize in geriatric care are dwindling. The supply of doctors trained specifically to treat older adults nowhere near keeping pace with a quickly aging US population.**
      * **The problem is visible in the numbers. More than 80 million Americans are expected to be older than 65 by 2050, according to the US Census Bureau.**  
      * **There’s no clear path to addressing the shortage. Medical professionals told BI the influx of older patients could lead to a quality-of-care crisis.**

    2. maiqtheprevaricator on

      Turns out when you screw over your kids for short term gain it makes them less likely to want to take care of you long term. Who’da thunk it

    3. Nursing assistants where I work can make about $30/hr, which is good for a job that only requires a semester of training. 

      But it’s a hellscape work environment. That’s why they can’t keep any staff. Who wants to deal with poop and pee all day? Who wants half their job to be taking people to the bathroom and emptying bedpans? You deal with lots of complaints and whining. Family members treat you like crap. Both your peers and your superiors treat you like crap. There’s lots of gossip and spreading rumors. It’s not a job where you simply clock in, work and clock out. 

      The basic fundamentals of elderly care are back-breaking and tedious. 

    4. snowbirdnerd on

      And they aren’t going to get more because they voted for people who cut Medicare. The primary funding source for doctor residency programs and fellowships (training required to be a geriatrics doctor).

    5. 1. An entire generation is saddled with crippling education debt.

      2. The next generation looks at that and goes “man, it takes a lot of schooling to be a doctor”

      3. The medical field faces increasing danger for providing care, has to deal with insurance getting in the way and nickel and dime-ing their customers, has to deal with internships and workplace drama. It was already known to be a stressful job. That’s not going to improve soon.

      3. You get less doctors. At the same time, people are aging out; they’re retiring, meaning the pool of medical professionals is shrinking at both ends.

      4. Unless the sources of these problems are resolved, any reform will merely re-express old issues. In a decade, maybe two, things start getting dire.

    6. Lord_Vesuvius2020 on

      I’m afraid there’s only one solution. MAiD (looking at you Canada). Medical Assistance in Dying. When it gets bad enough that’s the deal.

    7. pottedPlant_64 on

      Hmm, people losing jobs because of AI meets an industry that needs jobs on a similar trajectory 🤔

    8. soberpenguin on

      Private equity is deeply investing in elderly care right now. Boomers ain’t leaving their wealth for their families. It will be siphoned into assisted living, skilled nursing facilities, dialysis clinics, and funeral homes.

      Part of my portfolio is investing in these industries because you can’t stop time or demographics. I want my slice of what boomers won’t leave for the rest of us.

    9. feckless_ellipsis on

      Wait until Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid take a haircut.

      I work in not-for-profits, and I doubt people understand how much of the economy is propped up by those resources. Ripple effect will take many people out of the workforce to care for family members.

      I see this with the paucity of services for the Medicaid system – you can get a budget to spend on services, but there are none to buy. It’s a dry allocation. There’s always a family member, normally mom, who has to work part time or not at all to care for the affected family member. You are taking a taxpayer out of the system.

      Long term care operators better plan for this change. My mom lives in an assisted living facility. Her Social Security only covers half of it. Her pension (thank God she has one) covers the remainder. This is a good one, not the best, but also the most reasonably priced one in our area (about $5k a month).

      So, even if you can afford to stay in one of these places, they may shut down due to a significant portion not being able to swing it anymore. If the person has family, they can move in with them (leading to the problem noted with knocking out a working family member in the process).

      I read this the other day. If he’s right, this could be like end of days shit. [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5173332-social-security-cuts-risk-collapse/amp/](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5173332-social-security-cuts-risk-collapse/amp/)

    10. OldschoolGreenDragon on

      Oh no, whatever shall they do? Quick! Tqx the rich to provide Healthcare and social services so that Americans aren’t too terrified for their own survival so that they can have and raise children!

      I’ll wait here.

    11. LexLuthorJr on

      At this point, your best bet after retirement is maxing out all your credit cards and living well beyond your means. Once you’re finally arrested for not paying all your creditors, enjoy the free health care you get in prison.

    12. FuturologyBot on

      The following submission statement was provided by /u/thisisinsider:

      **TLDR:**

      * **There’s a growing problem for older Americans: doctors who specialize in geriatric care are dwindling. The supply of doctors trained specifically to treat older adults nowhere near keeping pace with a quickly aging US population.**
      * **The problem is visible in the numbers. More than 80 million Americans are expected to be older than 65 by 2050, according to the US Census Bureau.**  
      * **There’s no clear path to addressing the shortage. Medical professionals told BI the influx of older patients could lead to a quality-of-care crisis.**

      Please reply to OP’s comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1j89lj5/americas_aging_population_faces_a_growing/mh3bbgw/

    13. Sea-Dish-4766 on

      Hmm maybe since the old people fucked the economy and made it too pricy to have kids we should just euthanize them when they can’t take care of themselves, problem solved! If they want to live they should boot strap their way forward.

    14. They are deathly afraid of being treated like they treated their parents. Too bad, to the nursing home you go.

      My sympathy wore out in 2000 when the boomer voters were told that they had a 2 .5 trillion surplus and could pay it toward the 5 trillion in debt we had at the time. What did they do? Tax cuts for the rich.

      My Give-a-Shit tank is empty. Ask the rich to adopt them.

    15. With the way things are looking, we have significantly tightened the belt on expenditures to build a secondary emergency „my parents are about to be dumped on the streets unless I intervene“. They are very financially savvy and I trust that they can weather this but my dad’s poor health means everything they have built for themselves from zero could be at risk if he cannot be insured because Medicare was sabotaged.

      I am very fortunate that both me and my sister are fully on board and ready to cut career trajectories in favor of taking care of him, and mom is ready to compensate whoever does it appropriately so that it is not a financial loss to either of us (and I probably would try to fight back and reject it but I’d also probably lose said fight) but I know many people in dire straits who do not have that luxury.

      My sister works in healthcare and the exodus of nurses especially from geriatric care is real and the implications are extremely understated right now. She was the one who actually started pushing this conversation between all of us of how to take care of dad, because she would sooner go broke than see him go to any nursing home. She’s seen what happens inside of them.

      Even the nice, upscale memory care facility my husband’s grandmother went to that charged over 10,000 dollars a month ended up being run like shit and had serious staffing and protocol issues.

      My in laws can go enjoy the bed they’ve made. For them, we have allotted exactly as much sympathy as they have extended to us.

      I cannot even begin to imagine how stressful and depressing it is to have to worry about two sets of parents. It’s already such a huge emotional toll just having to worry about one.

    16. mawkishdave on

      Well, it sounds like Trump’s going to take care of that by removing social security and also Medicare, so most of the aging population that isn’t multibillionaires is going to probably just die.

    17. Good thing the aging MAGA population voted in Trump who plans to (check notes):

      -Cut Medicaid and Medicare as much as possible
      -Cut social security
      -Plans to cut the affordable care act
      -Cut the VA as much as possible and push the burden onto rest of healthcare
      -End the PSLF and convince future nurses and doctors to go into something else
      -Use rhetoric that constantly shits on the generation that’s going to be caring for them.
      -(place holder for everything else I forgot and any future harmful policies)

      I’m sure the states will handle it all just fine. Meemaw in Kentucky will be A ok.

    18. It is worse than even this. Doctors are so burnt out because of how our health system works (they spend more effort processing insurance than caring for patients) that they really aren’t giving good medical care. We do NOT have health care in the USA.

    19. It’s unfortunate that in our society we do not take care of our parents. We ship them off to care homes and forget them. You know why they are having to spend all their retirement and wealth on care homes, because the kids won’t help them. I worked in the industry for better part of a decade and it is surprising how many people I saw act out upon by their parents and having do anything for them at all. I’ve seen the elderly have to figure it all out on their own only to find out they have several kids and no body was willing to help them. It’s is tragic and really disgusting. The doctors in this field are dealing with sad landscape with little upside but to watch a generation deteriorating while being actively forgotten.

    20. denied_eXeal on

      That’s why RFK is here, with the return of measles and other once forgotten diseases, the old people in the US are in for a rude awakening, or eternal sleepening I guess

    21. BadAsclepius on

      As a Nurse, I hope they enjoy the absolute toxic cancerous environment they created as a generation.

      Gutting funding, demonizing workers, and expecting slave-like behavior from those taking care of them.

    22. Who’d have thought the past generations making stupid, selfish choices would come back to bite them in the ass on their death bed? They alienated their families, friends & anyone else that legit cared, all because they got brainwashed into believing conspiracy theories & political bullshit lies. I don’t have a shred of sympathy for any of them – it’s called „consequences“, now see if you have the strength & mobility to pull up your own fucking bootstraps, assholes.

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