Nutzende Karte aller aserbaidschanischen Städte, in denen ihr türkischer Name in neu erfundenen persischen Namen umbenannt wurde. Es zeigt, wo South Aserbaidschan ist
Nutzende Karte aller aserbaidschanischen Städte, in denen ihr türkischer Name in neu erfundenen persischen Namen umbenannt wurde. Es zeigt, wo South Aserbaidschan ist
I am not necessarily disputing that Iran is doing such a thing, but unless you provide some data about these locations, this is just a map with a lot of green pins. It could represent the locations where people prefer apple juice over orange juice, or the prevalence of skateboarding incidents, the number of hamburger restaurants or really anything else.
Poo_Aq on
This is disgusting. Why do they fear Turkic culture?
Also, isn’t Khamenei and his bozos mostly Turks too? Why do they do that to almost half of their nation?
darijabs on
Ummmm when did this supposedly happen? My last name is a city that was allegedly Persianized and my family has had my last name since last names were created in Iran 100 years ago
Edit: the maps you include with the “old” names are from the 1850s, so if this is true, this isn’t something recent as you are implying. I think a lot of cities throughout the world have changed names since 1850
LLAMAWAY on
turks did the same to greeks city and anatolia this is what I call a cope
Decent_Sound4561 on
There’s a city called Parsabad, it’s next to Araz river. I’ve always wondered how come there’s a Persian settlement surrounded by Azerbaijanis, then I learned that population are Azerbaijani Turks, and the city was renamed…
Long-Jackfruit5037 on
Azerbaijan itself comes from a Middle Persian word meaning protector of the fire temple.
Jacky-brawl-stars on
Turks did the literally fucking same thing with the greek cities in anatolia, and do you know where the word azerbajian came from
FayrayzF on
Yeah, no, these were “renamed” 100+ years ago when Turks were still the elite in Iran. Please stop trying to revise history, Azerbaijan republic is separate now, but was part of Iran for 1500 years before that whether you like it or not. And not by annexation, they were a key part of Iran’s heartland.
DistanceCalm2035 on
ok a couple of things?
1 – Almost all of the names are the same, they are still turkic, but written per persian pronunciation, baakhkandi -> bakhkandi, buzghala to bozghale, etc
2. in some cases they have been translated to farsi
3. some have been changed to farsi
4. some are in fact iranic/arabic, with azeri pronunciation but now changed to persian pronunciation, barik avva to barik ab, it is not turkic to begin with and yet is on the map
5- Also one question, how would you feel if the names were changed back to their original iranic, armenian, assyrian names, why stop at 4 century ago? why not go all the way back to their original names?
aryaman0falborz on
Good. It it helped centralize the government; there is no “south azarbijan” the Baku republic took a name that did not belong to it. many of those cities had names that were of Iranian origin before the turkofication of the region. We are just doing what we can to reverse that. The Pahlavis have done more for Iran than any Turkic dynasty.
CeryanReis on
Turkish state does the same thing since 1940s. Greek, Armenian and Kurdish town and village names have been replaced with Turkish ones. So there are dozens of similar place names. It is a shame.
ariobarzan_ on
Well Turkic names replaced Iranian names, a lot about 500 years ago. The French and a Portuguese traveler accounts say Turkic wasn’t spoken in Tabriz or Ardebil in the mid 1500s. Also the Safavids were an Iranic speaking clan that shifted to Turkic shortly before they rose to power
FrequentThing3220 on
Azerbaijan does same for cities/villages where ethnic minorities live. But you won’t see such post in this sub. Hypocrisy! 2 üzlüsünüz, bu qeder!
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Very expected from an autocracy like Iran.
I am not necessarily disputing that Iran is doing such a thing, but unless you provide some data about these locations, this is just a map with a lot of green pins. It could represent the locations where people prefer apple juice over orange juice, or the prevalence of skateboarding incidents, the number of hamburger restaurants or really anything else.
This is disgusting. Why do they fear Turkic culture?
Also, isn’t Khamenei and his bozos mostly Turks too? Why do they do that to almost half of their nation?
Ummmm when did this supposedly happen? My last name is a city that was allegedly Persianized and my family has had my last name since last names were created in Iran 100 years ago
Edit: the maps you include with the “old” names are from the 1850s, so if this is true, this isn’t something recent as you are implying. I think a lot of cities throughout the world have changed names since 1850
turks did the same to greeks city and anatolia this is what I call a cope
There’s a city called Parsabad, it’s next to Araz river. I’ve always wondered how come there’s a Persian settlement surrounded by Azerbaijanis, then I learned that population are Azerbaijani Turks, and the city was renamed…
Azerbaijan itself comes from a Middle Persian word meaning protector of the fire temple.
Turks did the literally fucking same thing with the greek cities in anatolia, and do you know where the word azerbajian came from
Yeah, no, these were “renamed” 100+ years ago when Turks were still the elite in Iran. Please stop trying to revise history, Azerbaijan republic is separate now, but was part of Iran for 1500 years before that whether you like it or not. And not by annexation, they were a key part of Iran’s heartland.
ok a couple of things?
1 – Almost all of the names are the same, they are still turkic, but written per persian pronunciation, baakhkandi -> bakhkandi, buzghala to bozghale, etc
2. in some cases they have been translated to farsi
3. some have been changed to farsi
4. some are in fact iranic/arabic, with azeri pronunciation but now changed to persian pronunciation, barik avva to barik ab, it is not turkic to begin with and yet is on the map
5- Also one question, how would you feel if the names were changed back to their original iranic, armenian, assyrian names, why stop at 4 century ago? why not go all the way back to their original names?
Good. It it helped centralize the government; there is no “south azarbijan” the Baku republic took a name that did not belong to it. many of those cities had names that were of Iranian origin before the turkofication of the region. We are just doing what we can to reverse that. The Pahlavis have done more for Iran than any Turkic dynasty.
Turkish state does the same thing since 1940s. Greek, Armenian and Kurdish town and village names have been replaced with Turkish ones. So there are dozens of similar place names. It is a shame.
Well Turkic names replaced Iranian names, a lot about 500 years ago. The French and a Portuguese traveler accounts say Turkic wasn’t spoken in Tabriz or Ardebil in the mid 1500s. Also the Safavids were an Iranic speaking clan that shifted to Turkic shortly before they rose to power
Azerbaijan does same for cities/villages where ethnic minorities live. But you won’t see such post in this sub. Hypocrisy! 2 üzlüsünüz, bu qeder!