Let’s just say that as someone with a background in history and international relations, the “stress” levels are high but manageable. It’s the lack of concern and seriousness of friends, colleagues and so many others that is absolutely unbareable.
Kawa46be on
Worried? We are in the center between 2 mayor powers run by psychopaths and modern weapons and nukes that on top seem to hate us.
So no worries. /s
Altruistic_Mall_2639 on
We still have time. We should prepare
GWHZS on
Meh. The actual war is never going to end up here, imo. If there’s a serious war, the east and the north are going to take the brunt of it.
And if they start throwing nuclear warheads we’re all fucked anyway
tuathaa on
Why would I be worried about things I couldn’t change even if I wanted to? I don’t think war is particularly close to happening tbh, but you know, if it happens, it happens.
Acrobatic-Big-1550 on
Nee
xTiLkx on
The likelyhood of war is extremely high. Russia is now backed by pretty much every global militairy force, they have no real way of losing, not considering nuclear power.
A_Man_Uses_A_Name on
There is no direct threat to Belgium so no worries. Further on: the 500 million Europeans should unite and build a whole weapon industry aimed against the threat 140 million Russians pose. Europe (EU+UK) is bigger than the US and Russia together.
the-hellrider on
Worried maybe is the wrong word, but i do not think a 3th world war isn’t unexpected within the next 4 years if Putin or Trump doesn’t die from natural causes.
Why worried is the wrong word? I think the war will be at the east of Europe, so we will not be the frontline as in WOI and WOII, so we will not feel the real fights, but we will feel the effects by having to send our family to the front and the economical effects.
SyberWolf on
considering that we have a one year voluntarily service now since recently. makes me think the chance of it escalating is big. wont be long before they force people to serve.
Ok_Recording_8720 on
We’ll be talking Russian before the EU and countries Goverments decide anything. Let alone execute it.
Easiest invasion ever.
They won’t have to fire a shot. But fwiw…I’ll be grabbing my kitchen knife and do what I can.
NogViezereFreddy on
We are Belgians,
We are passive by nature.
Wat do you think?
pyto00 on
go stock that toilet paper , you never know when shit hit the fan.
Rudi-G on
Not sure if it is just me but I still do not feel the dread I had in the 1980s. It was then as if an atomic war could start at any moment. I am not really worried that a war will break out over here any time soon.
bobke4 on
Can I change something about it? No so why worry
Worvrammu on
We have a genius Minister of Defense. His name is… O god, we’re fucked.
divaro98 on
Quite a bit. But we should rebuilt our army. And quick.
arrayofemotions on
Worried… no. I am however getting really sick of all the doomsday thinking.
There isn’t going to be a war with Russia. They are still completely bogged down in Ukraine, what makes anyone think they could ever take on the EU.
That being said, I’m not an idiot. Power dynamics are shifting, and who knows how much more crazy the US is going to get. Europe clearly needs to build up its defense capabilities regardless so it can stand on its own.
Hikashuri on
Not worried at all. Russia is going after the states that used to be part of the USSR, but I doubt he will even try to come here, nuclear deterrent is still there. France has no first strike policy, meaning you don’t want to go up against that.
Nollhouse on
The scare-media always made it money.with scaremongering
R-GiskardReventlov on
> Oorlogsgeleerden, genies van ’t kanon
>
> Ge bouwt de torpedo’s en waterstofbom.
>
> Ge schuilt achter muren en achter papier
>
> Maar ik ken al uw kuren, uw stalen manier.
> G’ hebt nooit nie gewerkt dan in het bedrijf
>
> Dat mensen vernietigt en harten verstijft.
>
> Ge geeft mij uw wapen, maar ge mijdt mijnen blik
>
> En fluiten er kogels, dan schijt ge van schrik.
> Ge bouwt aan ‘t verderf van leven en land
>
> Ge steekt met uw streken de wereld in brand.
>
> En al kan ’t u nie schelen, dat ik u verwens
>
> Toch zijde ne vloek in de buurt van ne mens.
> Ge zaait uwe waanzin, die koud is en wreed
>
> Ge foltert m’n kinderen, ge lacht met hun leed.
>
> En ik weet dat de schepper het denkbeeld verfoeit
>
> Dat er menselijk bloed door uw aderen vloeit.
> *Crepeer voor mijn part en liefst nog vandaag*
>
> *En ik volg uw kist liever rap dan te traag*
>
> *En ik zal u zien zakken in de vredige grond*
>
> *En ik schrijf op uw graven: ‘Gevaarlijken hond’!*
Tekst: Wannes Van de Velde, Roland van Campenhout.
Muziek: Bob Dylan.
Bjokkes on
Yes.
skaldk on
fear always do upvotes
nice try
Koekelbag on
I am, unfortunately.
Nuclear deterrents can only give peace of mind when it assumes there’s enough firepower on either opposing side that any attack will lead to MAD.
So I am more than a bit worried that, in the event that the US officially joins an axis with Russia or at the very least pulls out of Nato and stops providing security guarantees in Europe, we might well start to see nuclear attacks again when the majority of those weapons are concentrated in the US and Russia.
SinisterZzz on
It is what it is, I do hope see my childen grow old enough to take care of themselves before something major happens. I never told myself that nothing will ever happen again, war and conflict has been an integral part of human nature since the time of hunter gatherers and the way how we live are build on the shoulders of lower social classes. War, war never changes.
TurnShot6202 on
Ik ben eerder verbaasd dat mensen denken dat de uk of frankrijk een of ander heilig doel proberen te bereiken tegen het grote kwaad. Ze zijn zelf deel van de oorlogsmachine en de retoriek opvlammen gaat enkel maar alles erger maken. Ik ben worried want het grote publiek laat zich weer (wéér) vangen ook al zijn wij het die lasagna worden als het weer eens oorlog is. De rest zit letterlijk in een fucking bunker van ettelijke miljoenen. Ge moet echt achterlijk zijn om te denken dat oekraine het waard is om gans europa in de fik te steken. En néé, vertel mij niet dat poetin tot België wil marcheren of ik krijg een aneurysme. Ze spelen met ons alsof we mieren zijn en overal zie ik idioten (ja) die precies blij worden van een nieuwe oorlog. All heil zelensky. Nah.
Harpeski on
Gewoon wachten tot Trump president af is.
Tot de ‚tarrifs‘ het leven van de gewone Amerikaan zodanig hoog maakt, dat hij niet meer verkozen geraakt.
Want ik geloof wel dat hij voor een derde termijn wil gaan/proberen.
Godofred00 on
I’m more scared of my own government ass fucking me than the US or Russian govt.
FullMetal000 on
I think, like many things, it’s created outrage and stress. I’m far more concerned about things I can control and influence because they are also things being downplayed that have far more influence on my day to day lives.
Does that mean I don’t care about the situation in Ukraine? Sure, it’s bad. Sure, they need help. But the situation isn’t as black and white as „throwing more money at them“ so they can fight.
The war needs to stop. I thought we as Europeans should have learned after 2 huge world wars (of basically brother wars) that bloodshed like that is utterly meaningless and doesn’t help anyone.
At the same time: it’s also our own politicians their fault for propping up Putin. Only now the last couple of years they villify him completely like he’s the worlds biggest danger but before that they couldn’t throw enough money at him for his gas.
Long story short: it’s 100% a failure of our own elected leaders and European Union.
rooierus on
Worried, not so much. Convinced that the information waged by external players (Russia, China but also US and Israel) needs to be addressed, yes. Without tighter integration, the individual EU countries are on a one-way track to becoming vassal states of the major players.
Neutronenster on
If the war ever gets to Belgium we’re screwed, because Belgium is almost impossible to defend against a serious invasion, due to the lack of natural barriers. The river De Schelde is probably the hardest obstacle, but it’s not that hard to take a detour to a point where De Schelde is much easier to cross.
Our best defense is to build good diplomatic and trade relationships with our neighbours. That way, it’s in their best interests to continue trading with us rather than to wage a costly war against us. Unfortunately, the diplomatic relations with Russia have already broken down to a point where that’s not going to work, so at best we’ll have to hope that our neigbouring countries can stop a Russian invasion if it should ever come to that. 😅
artparade on
Wanneer gaan we die amerikanen met hun wapens hier eens buiten smijten eigenlijk?
CannyBanny on
„meneer de president, slaap zacht“
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Let’s just say that as someone with a background in history and international relations, the “stress” levels are high but manageable. It’s the lack of concern and seriousness of friends, colleagues and so many others that is absolutely unbareable.
Worried? We are in the center between 2 mayor powers run by psychopaths and modern weapons and nukes that on top seem to hate us.
So no worries. /s
We still have time. We should prepare
Meh. The actual war is never going to end up here, imo. If there’s a serious war, the east and the north are going to take the brunt of it.
And if they start throwing nuclear warheads we’re all fucked anyway
Why would I be worried about things I couldn’t change even if I wanted to? I don’t think war is particularly close to happening tbh, but you know, if it happens, it happens.
Nee
The likelyhood of war is extremely high. Russia is now backed by pretty much every global militairy force, they have no real way of losing, not considering nuclear power.
There is no direct threat to Belgium so no worries. Further on: the 500 million Europeans should unite and build a whole weapon industry aimed against the threat 140 million Russians pose. Europe (EU+UK) is bigger than the US and Russia together.
Worried maybe is the wrong word, but i do not think a 3th world war isn’t unexpected within the next 4 years if Putin or Trump doesn’t die from natural causes.
Why worried is the wrong word? I think the war will be at the east of Europe, so we will not be the frontline as in WOI and WOII, so we will not feel the real fights, but we will feel the effects by having to send our family to the front and the economical effects.
considering that we have a one year voluntarily service now since recently. makes me think the chance of it escalating is big. wont be long before they force people to serve.
We’ll be talking Russian before the EU and countries Goverments decide anything. Let alone execute it.
Easiest invasion ever.
They won’t have to fire a shot. But fwiw…I’ll be grabbing my kitchen knife and do what I can.
We are Belgians,
We are passive by nature.
Wat do you think?
go stock that toilet paper , you never know when shit hit the fan.
Not sure if it is just me but I still do not feel the dread I had in the 1980s. It was then as if an atomic war could start at any moment. I am not really worried that a war will break out over here any time soon.
Can I change something about it? No so why worry
We have a genius Minister of Defense. His name is… O god, we’re fucked.
Quite a bit. But we should rebuilt our army. And quick.
Worried… no. I am however getting really sick of all the doomsday thinking.
There isn’t going to be a war with Russia. They are still completely bogged down in Ukraine, what makes anyone think they could ever take on the EU.
That being said, I’m not an idiot. Power dynamics are shifting, and who knows how much more crazy the US is going to get. Europe clearly needs to build up its defense capabilities regardless so it can stand on its own.
Not worried at all. Russia is going after the states that used to be part of the USSR, but I doubt he will even try to come here, nuclear deterrent is still there. France has no first strike policy, meaning you don’t want to go up against that.
The scare-media always made it money.with scaremongering
> Oorlogsgeleerden, genies van ’t kanon
>
> Ge bouwt de torpedo’s en waterstofbom.
>
> Ge schuilt achter muren en achter papier
>
> Maar ik ken al uw kuren, uw stalen manier.
> G’ hebt nooit nie gewerkt dan in het bedrijf
>
> Dat mensen vernietigt en harten verstijft.
>
> Ge geeft mij uw wapen, maar ge mijdt mijnen blik
>
> En fluiten er kogels, dan schijt ge van schrik.
> Ge bouwt aan ‘t verderf van leven en land
>
> Ge steekt met uw streken de wereld in brand.
>
> En al kan ’t u nie schelen, dat ik u verwens
>
> Toch zijde ne vloek in de buurt van ne mens.
> Ge zaait uwe waanzin, die koud is en wreed
>
> Ge foltert m’n kinderen, ge lacht met hun leed.
>
> En ik weet dat de schepper het denkbeeld verfoeit
>
> Dat er menselijk bloed door uw aderen vloeit.
> *Crepeer voor mijn part en liefst nog vandaag*
>
> *En ik volg uw kist liever rap dan te traag*
>
> *En ik zal u zien zakken in de vredige grond*
>
> *En ik schrijf op uw graven: ‘Gevaarlijken hond’!*
Tekst: Wannes Van de Velde, Roland van Campenhout.
Muziek: Bob Dylan.
Yes.
fear always do upvotes
nice try
I am, unfortunately.
Nuclear deterrents can only give peace of mind when it assumes there’s enough firepower on either opposing side that any attack will lead to MAD.
So I am more than a bit worried that, in the event that the US officially joins an axis with Russia or at the very least pulls out of Nato and stops providing security guarantees in Europe, we might well start to see nuclear attacks again when the majority of those weapons are concentrated in the US and Russia.
It is what it is, I do hope see my childen grow old enough to take care of themselves before something major happens. I never told myself that nothing will ever happen again, war and conflict has been an integral part of human nature since the time of hunter gatherers and the way how we live are build on the shoulders of lower social classes. War, war never changes.
Ik ben eerder verbaasd dat mensen denken dat de uk of frankrijk een of ander heilig doel proberen te bereiken tegen het grote kwaad. Ze zijn zelf deel van de oorlogsmachine en de retoriek opvlammen gaat enkel maar alles erger maken. Ik ben worried want het grote publiek laat zich weer (wéér) vangen ook al zijn wij het die lasagna worden als het weer eens oorlog is. De rest zit letterlijk in een fucking bunker van ettelijke miljoenen. Ge moet echt achterlijk zijn om te denken dat oekraine het waard is om gans europa in de fik te steken. En néé, vertel mij niet dat poetin tot België wil marcheren of ik krijg een aneurysme. Ze spelen met ons alsof we mieren zijn en overal zie ik idioten (ja) die precies blij worden van een nieuwe oorlog. All heil zelensky. Nah.
Gewoon wachten tot Trump president af is.
Tot de ‚tarrifs‘ het leven van de gewone Amerikaan zodanig hoog maakt, dat hij niet meer verkozen geraakt.
Want ik geloof wel dat hij voor een derde termijn wil gaan/proberen.
I’m more scared of my own government ass fucking me than the US or Russian govt.
I think, like many things, it’s created outrage and stress. I’m far more concerned about things I can control and influence because they are also things being downplayed that have far more influence on my day to day lives.
Does that mean I don’t care about the situation in Ukraine? Sure, it’s bad. Sure, they need help. But the situation isn’t as black and white as „throwing more money at them“ so they can fight.
The war needs to stop. I thought we as Europeans should have learned after 2 huge world wars (of basically brother wars) that bloodshed like that is utterly meaningless and doesn’t help anyone.
At the same time: it’s also our own politicians their fault for propping up Putin. Only now the last couple of years they villify him completely like he’s the worlds biggest danger but before that they couldn’t throw enough money at him for his gas.
Long story short: it’s 100% a failure of our own elected leaders and European Union.
Worried, not so much. Convinced that the information waged by external players (Russia, China but also US and Israel) needs to be addressed, yes. Without tighter integration, the individual EU countries are on a one-way track to becoming vassal states of the major players.
If the war ever gets to Belgium we’re screwed, because Belgium is almost impossible to defend against a serious invasion, due to the lack of natural barriers. The river De Schelde is probably the hardest obstacle, but it’s not that hard to take a detour to a point where De Schelde is much easier to cross.
Our best defense is to build good diplomatic and trade relationships with our neighbours. That way, it’s in their best interests to continue trading with us rather than to wage a costly war against us. Unfortunately, the diplomatic relations with Russia have already broken down to a point where that’s not going to work, so at best we’ll have to hope that our neigbouring countries can stop a Russian invasion if it should ever come to that. 😅
Wanneer gaan we die amerikanen met hun wapens hier eens buiten smijten eigenlijk?
„meneer de president, slaap zacht“