Ich habe diesen Artikel nur durchschleudert. Ich bin auch jemand, der seinen Master und eine Zeit der Forschung in Finnland gemacht hat und überlegt, zu gehen. Im Gegensatz zu den Menschen in dem Artikel habe ich eine Position, die zu dem entspricht, auf das ich spezialisiert bin, und 3 Jahre Erfahrung, aber ich habe ein Gehalt, das überhaupt nicht stieg, und es ist niedriger als der nationale Median. Der "lustig" Die Sache ist, ich erhalte Stellenangebote aus dem Ausland, aber nicht aus Finnland, und ich habe nie ein Interview von einer Bewerbung in Finnland erhalten. Niemals. Ich habe meinen aktuellen Job durch eine Verbindung erhalten. All dies, gepaart mit der Rezession, die zu einer Depression wird, und der kontinuierliche Verlust der Kaufkraft, die ich erlebe, drängt mich dazu, ein wirklich gutes Angebot zu akzeptieren, das ich kürzlich aus dem Ausland erhalten habe, und das Urlaub. Jemand anderes in meiner gleichen Position?
Bearbeiten: Sieht so aus, als hätten sie auch eine englische Version veröffentlicht https://yle.fi/a/74-20146092
"Kiitos Suomi ja näkemiin": Yle article about foreigners studying in Finland and then leaving for not having prospects.
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Von fcon91
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I am finnish and I am considering leaving.
Actually, not just considering, actively planning.
I will get my kids educated here and after that it is so long.
Some economists say that a rise is coming in couple of years, but after the damage Kokkarit has done, I just dont see it.
Elitists, conservatists and rightwing won and Imma leave.
Hell, if I had a great offer from abroad I’d leave. And I’m native.
The only reason for that is the job market. I like this country otherwise, it’s just really depressing trying to find anything with which to pay the bills right now. I’m a financial sector translator with a secondary job as a freelance programmer (without those 3-5 years of IT experience required everywhere), so you can probably imagine what it’s like. Savings are dwindling while anxiety is rising.
It also doesn’t help that nearly everyone in my social circle is employed in some stable and relatively nice job, so the midday chats tend to revolve around work, which just makes me more aware and unhappy of my situation. I’d be quite ready to leave for a few months if not permanently.
To OP: why not take the offer from abroad? From my perspective that’d seem like a no-brainer, but maybe you have reasons to stay?
Useful to note that this article was also posted to the finnish language sub.
Among the most voted comments there were about wasting money on subsidizing education for non-eu students. A new law will end this next year as the tuition will have to cover the full cost of the education. So many of stipends and so on will disappear.
Other popular comments were about lack of Finnish language skills. Options everywhere will be limited if you don’t speak the country’s main language.
Also many have educations that are hardly useful in Finland. Like that woman with legal degree from Cameroon. Obvious not really useful within finnish legal system as you need to know the language plus the legal system.
But anyway everyone should do what they think is best for them. If they have better options elsewhere they should go there.
What is kinda crazy still, is that this attitude on the Finnish job market is essentially self-defeating. Too many Finnish companies it seems – particularly in services and tech – are not taking advantage of the opportunities that come with being more cosmopolitan-minded, so you end up with a lot of companies only catering to the Finnish market which is itself already quite small. The companies that seem to for example use English as company language, not only expand who they can recruit, but also where they can sell their services. The hard requirements for Finnish language skills in job postings are often there because these companies for some reason really only want to serve the Finnish market, so it makes sense to need Finnish language skills. But this seriously puts a cap on what kind of growth you can expect as a company. It’s alright to start small, but you gotta be able to think big, and way too often Finnish language requirements are examples of companies just thinking way too small.
Immigrants come here for work opportunities, and knowing they will be safe and cared for when unemployed, or ill. We do not come here, learn the language, get our citizenship for the nice weather and colorful architecture.
So if the companies ignore and/or lowball us, the healthcare system fails us, and so does the welfare and unemployment, we simply can’t say we’re here for a better life anymore.
Why be poor and treated badly in the Nordics when you can be poor and treated badly in your original culture, close to family and friends?
Sadly, some of us have built a life here (20 years of hard effort for me), some of us have families and friends. And we still get treated like we’re trespassing. I don’t blame anyone who wants to leave. If you can, do it. I don’t think what’s happening now will be fixed anytime soon. It hurts. I spent half my life here and I never thought I’d see our country become like this.
Off topic but can someone explain how the guy’s education could cost half a million? 🤔