Screenshots sind selbsterklärend, aber um es kurz zu machen: Am Eingang des Gebäudes hing ein Hinweis, dass die Inspektion auf Rauchmelder an einem bestimmten Datum zwischen 11 und 13 Uhr stattfinden würde. Meine Vermieterin hat sie nie installiert, obwohl sie es hätte tun sollen, bevor ich eingezogen bin, aber sie hat auch andere unvollendete Arbeiten in der Wohnung gelassen, von denen sie sagte, dass sie sie irgendwann fertigstellen wird (was sie nie getan hat). Sie ist in meine Wohnung eingedrungen, ohne dass ich es wusste, um sie zu installieren, und hat nun damit gerechnet, dass sie mich rausschmeißen wird, weil ich nicht da war.

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    2. Change the locks to your apartment and personally I would avoid such long discussions on Whatsapp. Leads to nowhere.

    3. I’d change the lock to the apartment immediately, keep the old one and change it back once you move out

    4. I’m a landlord and tenant and this makes me furious.

      The termination talk if she has to discuss the problem any further is ridiculous.

      I wish you would escalate this further (lawyer, police) but would understand if you didn’t.

    5. Lucky4Linus on

      As others have said: Change the lock to your appartment’s entrance door. Look on YouTube how to change and measure a *Zylinder* of a *Türschloss*.

      Your landlord was never allowed to keep a key to your appartment, so don’t expect him, to hand out all the keys, just because you are requesting it.

    6. Save this WhatsApp chat in case you really get an Abmahnung and have to get a an attorney.

    7. Unhappy_Researcher68 on

      So go to the police and file charges. This is a criminal matter. „Hausfriedensbruch“.

      Also you have to have acces to the trashcans 24/7. If that is not possible you can lower your rent by x% do that only with a lawyer.

    8. Change the locks and go to the police, entering your flat – even as the landlord – is Hausfriendensbruch and a crime as is keeping a key to the flat without your consent. Go to the police, Mieterschutzbund and look for a new apartment asap.

    9. schlussmitlustig on

      This could evolve into a really interesting game.

      First of all: your landlord is an asshole and completely wrong. The law is on your side, a landlord is not allowed to enter your apartment without permission or without an emergency.

      Second: give alle the evidence to a lawyer, just in advance. You’ll never know what’s coming next.

      Evicting a tenant in germany is not as easy as your landlord is trying to make you believe. Evicting a tenant can take years over years, because a tenant has rights!!

      Besides of that, change the locks, and follow the complaints – for the moment.

    10. TokenizedBanksy on

      OP as others have stated:

      – Change the locks first thing tomorrow morning
      – Go to the police!!

    11. darkblue___ on

      Due to all suggestions to change the lock, why Is It allowed without landlord’s consent?

      Technically, you are going to change someone else’s door lock as tenant. Isn’t this also illegal?

    12. He is not allowed to have any keys to your apartment.

      I would set a date when he has to give you all the keys otherwise you will talk to your lawyer. If he thinks about cancelling your contract tell him all Communication via WhatsApp will go to your lawyer.

      You do not need to do that. Just telling someone you will is enough.

    13. And don’t forget that your landlord has already broken the law by keeping a key to the apartment. They need to either hand you all keys at the ubergabe or allow you to install your own lock.

    14. Wow I am so glad you didn’t take this lightly despite her assurance of how good it is for you. In my initial years as a student (and even now sometimes), I never had in me to protest against trespassing from past landlords even if I didn’t like.

      Kudos! If you have it in you, do escalate it

    15. Go to the police. It’s likely that the landlord as well as the contractor have committed a crime. Also get help from a lawyer to check if there has been any breach of contract from your side by not providing access and if a notice posted in the house is sufficient to ask you for such access. Do change the locks though

    16. You can start a lawsuit against you landlord and would win this. This is hogly illegal and you are absolutely right. He has to do an appointment with you and not do it the way he described.

      Please go to a attorney and document everything. At the end you will probably also receive a good amount of money from him and he has to pay a huge fine

    17. The landlord has to hand out ALL keys to the tenant. This is where the discussion should have ended.

    18. ShinySushiPlate on

      I’ve had a similar landlady which was absolutely ridiculous.

      First you have to understand that you will never change these idiots. They think of themselves as someone better since they own the place. They do not understand you are a customer and you should be treated well. There are multiple examples where ppl are not paying rent or rly destroying the place.

      What did I do in your situation? I also texted with that psychopath of a landlady and it was an absolute waste of time. If you rly want to defend yourself take a lawyer as another one did in my old building. He spent 3 years on court with her, investing energy and money. Was not an option for me even if I was right.

      Instead I moved out and focused on building a home where I feel well. I am happy that I don’t have to talk to that btch anymore.

    19. If you consider to press charges for trespassing, you need to make that decision within 3 months of that day, because that charge is contingent on your written and signed „Strafantrag“.

      Terrible behaviour by your landlord, obviously.

      Also, your German is really good. Kudos for handling this situation so well in a foreign language.

    20. actually in my opinion you both are not doing great. The landlord cant tell the schornsteinfeger when to come, they just give you an appointment and people have to deal with it or call him and ask for another time but for a multi-apartment-building thats not an easy thing.
      I think you should have deescalated as soon as you knew it was the Schornsteinfeger. The landlord doesnt want to annoy the Schornsteinfeger and I get it, they have special rights. They not only assure your safety but the safety of the building and your neighbors. I as a tenant want to be sure that the appartment next to me is checked by the Schornsteinfeger.

      On the other hand if the landlord has a key and is able to enter your private space this needs to be part of your contract of rent. Take a look inside there and see if it says that he is allowed in special cases like this.

      Also make sure you read into waste seperation and pfand or ask your neighbors how to properly take care of your trash and pfand. German landlords are generally very sensitive about that.

    21. Major-Marvellous on

      Go to the Mieterschutzbund and the sue that guy. I recommend additionally saving the screenshots, where he confessed entering your appartment, on an other device, just to make sure you still got them if something happened to your phone.

    22. Major-Marvellous on

      Go to the Mieterschutzbund and the sue that guy. I recommend additionally saving the screenshots, where he confessed entering your appartment, on an other device, just to make sure you still got them if something happened to your phone.

    23. Change the locks go to the police and also go to the mieterschutzbund. that is behaviour that isnt allowed from the landlords side and should be atleast looked into by authorities. stay safe :3

    24. Major-Marvellous on

      Go to the Mieterschutzbund and then sue that guy. I recommend additionally saving the screenshots, where he confessed entering your appartment, on an other device, just to make sure you still got them if something happened to your phone.

    25. while yes he has to check and maintine the smokedectors by law. he not allowed to enter you appament with out you allownce or with out informaing you per post. infom you laywer smells fishy.

    26. Eine Versicherung ist im übrigen genau für den Fall des eigenen Verschuldens da.

    27. cup1d_stunt on

      You guys suggesting to change locks are wrong. Schornsteinfeger must be given access to the apartment by the owner.

    28. and still you have to be there or make an appointment on your own with the guy with the fire protection

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