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    Die Ukraine, die nicht zu den US-russischen Friedensgesprächen in Saudi-Arabien eingeladen wurde, sagt Quelle
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    Die Ukraine, die nicht zu den US-russischen Friedensgesprächen in Saudi-Arabien eingeladen wurde, sagt Quelle

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    1. netsheriff on

      The senile insanity of trump is a virus that is starting to affect all of the US.

      Ukraine should be involved in all aspects of negotiations.

      Not doing that is appeasing Putin. It pretty much shows Putin is trump’s puppet master.

    2. Electronic-Win4094 on

      why would Trump want Zelensky or the EU there? It’s perfectly clear they’re happy to go down burning when Trump wants to completely withdraw to re-focus on China in the Pacific; if they’re invited its just going to be more „as long as it takes“, „Ukraine will be part of NATO/EU“, etc.

      the facade is being pulled away, and in the end the only 2 countries that mattered in this conflict was the US and Russia.

    3. DoYaLikeDegs on

      These are the preliminary talks aimed at arranging a summit between Trump, Putin, and Zelensky. I don’t see the issue here.

    4. berderkalfheim on

      This may be an unpopular opinion, but they don’t need to be there because they are unable to alter the outcome. Should they be there? Yeah. Need they be there? Nah.

      If the US says that they are unilaterally pulling out of supporting Ukraine, will agree to veto Ukraine’s ascension to NATO for 50 years, and recognizes Russia’s sovereign position of taken land, in exchange for something from Russia (i.e. alliance against China, cheap oil export, access to the rare minerals in the former eastern Ukraine, and maybe the Indian defense market), what’s Ukraine going to do?

      It’s a terrible situation, but honestly Ukraine has nearly no leverage on Trump whatsoever. They can try to pin continental Europe against the US but that might be all it has got.

      The only reason that Russia is in this war for as long as they have is *because* of NATO’s backing. Ukraine does not have the capability to deter Russia without NATO.

    5. NemeshisuEM on

      Trump will give Putin the whole of Ukraine in return for a Trump tower in Moscow and a Trump golf course in Crimea. No need for the Europeans and Ukrainians to be there for that. Hopefully this will piss off the Europeans enough to gear up for when Trump pulls the US out of NATO.

    6. HollyShitBrah on

      Trump will 100% throw Ukraine under the bus if he can get to say „I ended the war“

    7. kindagoodatthis on

      It’s not Ukraine-Russia peace talks. It’s US-Russia reconciliation. 

    8. MetalRetsam on

      Ukraine and Europe have too much skin in the game to come to an agreement that Putin will accept. Trump wants a foreign policy win and he wants out of Europe. Putin knows this is the best deal he’ll get.

      Plus, in IR terms, Trump and Putin are both realists whereas the Europeans are all liberalists. They don’t speak the same language.

    9. Certain-Business-472 on

      this has the chance of putting the US off the board. what a weird decision.

    10. kinky-proton on

      Zelensky accepted the US proxy role, part of it means negotiating through them.

      Still unpopular here but Ukraine would’ve been better off negotiating with Putin when Russia was still struggling militarily, there was a peak leverage moment and zelensky missed it

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