Submission Statement: „Former US National Security Advisor and Lieutenant General HR McMaster warned London that new technology can’t make up for falling numbers in its armed forces.“ The British Army’s size and capacity are declining and have reached its smallest level since the Napoleonic era amid heightened threats from Russia. As the UK aims to modernize its military, policymakers warn that these reductions could hinder Britain’s ability to sustain large-scale operations, raising questions about its capacity in NATO.
wappingite on
I seriously thought about joining the UK armed forces. But the pay was atrocious vs most other jobs. We do not value our military.
Defiant_Football_655 on
Canada, Australia, UK, and New Zealand should circle jerk together to build up our militaries. Just like the old days.
Specific-Treat-741 on
But i thought the uk was a naval power?
gabrielish_matter on
cool, cause the UK is supposed to be an air and naval power, not an army based one
it means they’re effective with their resources 😀
Elthar_Nox on
Ok… So many things to consider on this.
Firstly, he has a point. But not in the way expressed in the article.
We are smaller than ever before, but to compare The British Army of 2025 with that of the BAOR is just naive. By comparison the US Army has also shrunk at a similar rate.
We are smaller, but also vastly more capable. I’m confident that 3 Div would easily spank most peer Divisions 1v1. And our tests with the Americans showed we consistently outscored their divisions when we CPX together. (Equally we are always complimented by the US Army for our planning ability).
He has a point about the shrinking industry of the UK and Europe, but decades of US centric NATO has pushed our purchases towards to US MIC. Simply, we are too small to build it ourselves and too big for commercial off the shelf to be cost effective.
Unfortunately, as Trump has shown this week, the US may consider the UK as it’s „ally of choice“ but we must be pivoting towards a more thoroughly integrated EU military. Between Poland, UK, France and Germany we can field 10-12 divisions (of varying capabilities). Which is easily enough to destroy whatever the Russians can muster. And that’s excluding the Baltics, Nordics, Italians and importantly air & naval power.
NATO is weaker without the US, but it’s not weak. Not remotely.
Harthveurr on
It’s a fair criticism that the UK needs to reverse decades of military decline. Improvements to the British Army should certainly be a part of that.
Although, as others have said, the UK is a naval power so prioritising its sea power projection and expeditionary capability is vital. The Royal Marines are a key element as the tip of that spear.
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Submission Statement: „Former US National Security Advisor and Lieutenant General HR McMaster warned London that new technology can’t make up for falling numbers in its armed forces.“ The British Army’s size and capacity are declining and have reached its smallest level since the Napoleonic era amid heightened threats from Russia. As the UK aims to modernize its military, policymakers warn that these reductions could hinder Britain’s ability to sustain large-scale operations, raising questions about its capacity in NATO.
I seriously thought about joining the UK armed forces. But the pay was atrocious vs most other jobs. We do not value our military.
Canada, Australia, UK, and New Zealand should circle jerk together to build up our militaries. Just like the old days.
But i thought the uk was a naval power?
cool, cause the UK is supposed to be an air and naval power, not an army based one
it means they’re effective with their resources 😀
Ok… So many things to consider on this.
Firstly, he has a point. But not in the way expressed in the article.
We are smaller than ever before, but to compare The British Army of 2025 with that of the BAOR is just naive. By comparison the US Army has also shrunk at a similar rate.
We are smaller, but also vastly more capable. I’m confident that 3 Div would easily spank most peer Divisions 1v1. And our tests with the Americans showed we consistently outscored their divisions when we CPX together. (Equally we are always complimented by the US Army for our planning ability).
He has a point about the shrinking industry of the UK and Europe, but decades of US centric NATO has pushed our purchases towards to US MIC. Simply, we are too small to build it ourselves and too big for commercial off the shelf to be cost effective.
Unfortunately, as Trump has shown this week, the US may consider the UK as it’s „ally of choice“ but we must be pivoting towards a more thoroughly integrated EU military. Between Poland, UK, France and Germany we can field 10-12 divisions (of varying capabilities). Which is easily enough to destroy whatever the Russians can muster. And that’s excluding the Baltics, Nordics, Italians and importantly air & naval power.
NATO is weaker without the US, but it’s not weak. Not remotely.
It’s a fair criticism that the UK needs to reverse decades of military decline. Improvements to the British Army should certainly be a part of that.
Although, as others have said, the UK is a naval power so prioritising its sea power projection and expeditionary capability is vital. The Royal Marines are a key element as the tip of that spear.