Fast 3000 RA -Bürger werden aus den USA abgeschoben. Meinungen dazu?
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Von AxqatGyada
Fast 3000 RA -Bürger werden aus den USA abgeschoben. Meinungen dazu?
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Von AxqatGyada
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I wouldn’t be surprised if most of those are from the 100,000+ Armenians who were ethnically cleansed from Artsakh.
I wonder if they are Russian citizens who have obtained Armenian citizenship and travelled to the US after that? Not throwing shade at Russians or anything but they tend to take a second citizenship and apply for a US visa or other Western visas through that second citizenship and stuff. Like they usually apply for Serbian citizenship and try to get a visa with their Serbian passports and stuff
Nothing significant will happen neither in the U.S, nor in Armenia from this.
It’s heartbreaking and my thoughts and prayers go to these immigrant families who will be separated and broken up for who knows how many years. As an immigrant myself, I know the decision to emigrate never comes easy and the vast majority of immigrants do it because they absolutely have no other choice.
But also, I am conflicted because they were so many pro-trump armenians including in the immigrant communities that would rejoice when he was promising to attack the lgbt community, other racial minorities, women and abortion rights etc. Like of course it starts with the most vulnerable communities first and then moves up to everybody else. It’s all or no one, and we more than any ethnic group should know it I think.
I am a Turkish girl as some of you have noticed, and I think Christian immigrants should not be deported, especially Armenians. Armenians, at least the ones I know, stand for good traditional family values as we saw what happened in June 2023 Glendale, California. I also think that majority of these Hayastanis are women who went overseas to provide for their families. A lot of Hayastani women come to Turkey to earn a living for their families, so I think this is also the case here. Most of these Hayastani women also have Russian citizenship besides their Armenian one
30 minutes with Kim K in the white house and Trump will change his mind.
They broke the law. They face repercussions. Opinion? They most likely knew the risks (especially if they’re those Armenians who sold off all their possessions in Armenia to be smuggled into the US via Mexico border). It is what it is.
That’s data from November 2024, so that was Biden and the Democratic Party simply applying existing immigration laws.
Stop spreading misinformation!
The Glendale voters wanted this
Good. Bring them back to the motherland which they keep complaining about overseas.
That’s expected. „Trump vs illegal migrants“ is the thing he’s most famous for.
I only support legal migration. The majority of the people being sent back to armenia went to the us because of money related reasons the grass is always greener in the west instead of trying to match and improve your own country they wanna hop over the fence – nope.
The list also includes the countries of Yugoslavia and USSR …
There’s hundreds listed here with USSR as their citizenship – so they’ve been here for 30+ years and have no state to be deported to? Can someone explain how this works?
It’s sad of course for them, and I don’t blame them for trying but if Armenians stopped overstaying on tourist visas in large numbers it would make it much much easier for the rest of their people to get visas, and eventually could lead to visa-free travel.
It is interesting that you did not post the whole document. It had to take another person to post it.
Many of these people who are on the list for deportation have long already been through the legal process in the previous administration. The current administration is simply carrying it out. I don’t know how things work in Armenia, but deports in the US don’t happen overnight. Just like a person is arrested for a crime, they get processed and either get let go by paying a bail or they have to stay in jail until their court date. When it comes to overstaying your visa, if caught they do not deport you right away, unless they committed a serious crime and got caught to be extradited. Many of the others have options as stated in the bottom of the ERO (which you did not attach). Unfortunately the vast majority of these people do not even show up on their court date. But for some reason they do not show up, therefore losing their case by default. It is a shame that these people are scheduled to be deported. Many have built lives and probably became assets to their communities, but what other alternative is there? I would think any country including Armenia, would deport people from their land if they overstayed on their visa and remained in the country illegally.
When they deport they also have to obtain permission from their country of origin for authorization to return their citizens. A number of countries have refused, which also was in the ERO that was not attached. Some people just can’t return to their home country, even with a deportation order. So certain countries like Russia, China, Congo refused to accept deportees. So the US government will have to decide how to process these people. Will a third country accept them or what? Their case is in limbo.
Some of these countries that are on the list already have visa free access to the USA, like Canada so why they show up on the list is questionable. They can just border hop every 6 months. Several other countries are on the list are in the Compact of Free Association (Marshall Islands, Palau, and Micronesia). They can live and work in the US indefinitely. My guess is that these people have committed some type of crime in their home country, fled, and are scheduled to be extradited back.
I think an interesting topic of discussion is how many illegals are currently in Armenia, what are their country of origin, what steps is the government taking to take care of the concern, and what is the public opinion of them?
I asked Claude to run the numbers–like I suspected, Armenia is pretty high up on this list, per-capita.
| Country | Population (Latest Known) | Non-Detained Final Orders | Per Capita Rank |
| El Salvador | 6.3 million | 203,822 | 1 |
| Honduras | 10.1 million | 261,651 | 2 |
| Guatemala | 17.2 million | 253,413 | 3 |
| Nicaragua | 6.7 million | 45,995 | 4 |
| Cuba | 11.3 million | 42,084 | 5 |
| Mauritania | 4.8 million | 3,822 | 6 |
| Dominican Republic | 11.0 million | 12,699 | 7 |
| Ecuador | 17.8 million | 31,252 | 8 |
| Venezuela | 28.2 million | 22,749 | 9 |
| Armenia | 2.9 million | 2,808 | 10 |
| Albania | 2.8 million | 1,874 | 11 |
| Laos | 7.4 million | 4,850 | 12 |
| Romania | 19.1 million | 4,445 | 13 |
| Guyana | 790,000 | 1,236 | 14 |
| Vietnam | 97.3 million | 8,675 | 15 |
| Mexico | 130.2 million | 252,044 | 16 |
| Colombia | 51.5 million | 27,388 | 17 |
| Brazil | 214.3 million | 38,677 | 18 |
| China | 1.4 billion | 37,908 | 19 |
| India | 1.38 billion | 17,940 | 20 |
Note: This table shows the top 20 countries ranked by per capita ratio (number of individuals with final removal orders divided by country population).
Note 2: It takes years to get final removal (deportation) order. Since 2018 revolution in Armenia, it is very difficult for Armenians to successfully argue for a political asylum in the U.S., so I suspect there are hundreds, if not thousands, of Armenians who are in the immigration court system but haven’t yet received their final removal order.
Stay in Armenia…. It’s way better country than the USA. (I have visited Armenia thrice and lived in the US for 4.5 years)
~Love India.
“But, but, I thought they were only kicking out the brown people…”
As they should be. I’m no Trump fan, but illegal immigration and lawlessness has gotten out of control. Laws are created for a reason. If someone really wants to make America their home, they can look for legal opportunities to immigrate. Otherwise, all kinds of criminals can and do enter the country, that don’t have any place here (referring to the United States – but also true for any country, including RA itself). It’s not only a great way to have people that have no respect for the law i general, but also a perfect way to bring in criminal networks, dirty money, and just plain security risks.
Does this mean that those individuals got deportation notice but decided to break the law and stay in the US?
I hope The Armenian Trump supporters, a majority of whom did come here illegally can see this. That’s “Trump Hopar” for you……
Don’t see anything wrong with this. America has the right to enforce its immigration laws and being deported to Armenia isn’t a death sentence.
I feel for them on one hand, on the other hand they should have known the risk, and that just how taking a risk works, it may or may not work in your favor and you are supposed to accept the consequences.
Not everything illegal is immoral, and a lot of these people may have had intentions of reuniting with their families, that’s why I don’t support shaming them. But it is what it is, it was illegal, the Country has the right to enforce its laws.
Do it legally or don’t do it there’re no exceptions. Whether you’re Armenian, Syrian, Venezuelan or German you should be treated equally under the law. Anyone that overstays their visa or enters illegally has to be returned.
I disagree with Trump on many things (everything), but something that’s true is that immigration has to happen through legal avenues.
Well, ANCA advocated Armenians in the US to vote for Mickey Mouse and here is the result!
well let’s hope they won’t become homeless when they come back
Well my personal view is ALL diaspora should be deported back to Armenia.
Don’t come illegally through the Mexican border I am surprised how many have done this the last 10 years. They know they were risking everything to get here and what is at stake if they get caught. They took the risks and gambled. Also, a lot of Armenians coming from Armenia know all the tricks and loopholes to cheat the system.
Don’t get me wrong a lot are coming for a better life but damn our name has been tarnished heavily. This is coming from a hayastansi my parents came to the US in the 1980s and I was born and raised here. When I graduated college and started my first career job my colleagues found out I was Armenian they spoke with pride saying how smart and hardworking we are. Now it’s a different vibe.
The United States is $35 trillion in debt. It does not have enough funds to keep social security going, let alone take care of the needs of its own citizens. It is impossible to take care of the undocumented, nor take on all the people that wish to enter the country.