Chinas Deepseek -Überraschung
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Chinas Deepseek -Überraschung
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/01/deepseek-china-ai/681481/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo
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Almost overnight, DeepSeek, the Chinese AI chatbot, has rocketed to popularity in the United States. Americans are divided over whether to embrace or fear it, Matteo Wong writes.
When the Chinese AI start-up behind DeepSeek-R1 launched its model, the program appeared to match the most powerful version of ChatGPT—and, at least according to its creator, had taken a fraction of the cost to build. The model has incited plenty of concern, Wong continues: “Ultrapowerful Chinese AI models are exactly what many leaders of American AI companies feared when they, and more recently President Donald Trump, have sounded alarms about a technological race between” the U.S. and China. But at the same time, many other Americans—including much of the tech industry—are lauding the program’s capabilities.
Unlike top American AI labs, which keep their research almost entirely under wraps, DeepSeek has made its program’s final code free to view, download, and modify—which means that anybody, anywhere, can use, adapt, and even improve upon the program. “That openness makes DeepSeek a boon for American start-ups and researchers—and an even bigger threat to the top U.S. companies, as well as the government’s national-security interests,” Wong continues.
The pressure is now on OpenAI, Google, and their competitors to maintain their edge. The release of this Chinese AI program has also shifted “the nature of any U.S.-China AI ‘arms race,’” Wong writes. With the relatively transparent publicly available version of DeepSeek, Chinese programs—rather than leading American ones—could become the global technological standard for AI. “Being democratic—in the sense of vesting power in software developers and users—is precisely what has made DeepSeek a success. If Chinese AI maintains its transparency and accessibility, despite emerging from an authoritarian regime whose citizens can’t even freely use the web, it is moving in exactly the opposite direction of where America’s tech industry is heading,” Wong continues.
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My concern about an „AI race“ between US and China is that nobody wants to stop and talk about ethics or safeguards. Any time you mention either the resounding response is that the other side isn’t observing ethics or safeguards and that we will fall behind if we do. All of this is, of course, in the name of pure profit at the expense of workers.
What surprise???
The models are public since mid December
How “strange” that this surfaces on or around the time that tic-tok is being scrutinized…..
This feels too good to be true. There’s going to be some alarming catch to this thing, or it’s not nearly as good as advertised or it’s actually just a copy of ChatGPT or something.
I just can’t trust a product that pushes CCP revisionist history, which bothers me much more than the made-up history I regularly get from the other models.
Is there possibly a coincidence that tiktok is on its way out while deepseek is coming in hot?
This is China we talking about. What real news has come out of china in the last 30 years? They fabricate everything to suit the nationalist agenda.
The reaction to DeepSeek is way out of proportion. Which is typical for anything from China. AI is nothing new. American companies have been releasing AI products for a while now. Who cares if China finally figured out how to make one too?
It reminds me of my time in China during two events. One was when they launched their first aircraft carrier and the other was when they sent a drone to the moon. Very exciting for people in China and the CCP propaganda about how “advanced” China was went into overdrive. Except, people familiar with the fact that people have already gone to the moon in the 60s and that aircraft carriers have been around since the 1920s. We’re not as excited about China finally doing it too many, many decades after everyone else.
Same can be said for skyscrapers or subways. People gush about China building skyscrapers and subways even though people have been building them since the 1800s. Or Chinese high speed rail which was invented in the 60s and China stole from Japan. These are normally not things that anyone would be impressed by but for some reason when China does it. They are.
An incipient tech arms race between China and the US. Surely this will prompt Republicans to put funding in schools like during the Cold War, right? Right?
Is the surprise that the Chinese government is still an autocratic censorial shitshow?
Because that’s not a surprise.
How is the cost actually known or calculated for the Chinese?
We know they have a different economic model over there. I think maybe there are some steps being left out. Like government support etc.
Brace yourself for that rampant american nationalism that tolerates ZERO praise of China lol.
You can’t even talk facts about Deepseek on any sub related to tech or future tech bc everyone is drunk on the nationalism.