Donald Trump hat Bidens Anordnung zum Thema KI-Risiken aufgehoben
Was passiert, wenn wir davon ausgehen, dass sich die KI in ihrem aktuellen Tempo entwickelt? KI kann bereits programmieren, aber was passiert, wenn sie sich verbessert und in der Lage ist, tagelanges Programmieren innerhalb von Sekunden zu erledigen? Was ist mit Spielen oder Filmen, wenn die KI in der Lage ist, sie zu erzeugen? Es kann bereits lebensechte Videos erzeugen, sodass nicht einmal Live-Action-Sachen sicher sind, es kann sogar jede Stimme nachahmen. Was ist mit der Kunst, die sie auch hervorbringen kann? Was wird passieren, wenn es nicht mehr von dem zu unterscheiden ist, was Menschen machen?
Sobald Roboter geschaffen sind, wie sie Tesla nicht hat, werden auch Jobs wie Kochen oder Fabrikarbeit sicher sein.
Aber was ist das Endspiel? Bedeutet dies das Ende von Kapitalismus und Arbeit? Wird die Zukunft so sein wie in Star Trek?
What will happen when every job becomes automated?
byu/CraditzBlitz inFuturology
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What happened when the automobile replaced the horse
Then who is going to buy the stuff that these automated jobs create, and with what money? AI won’t replace and automate all jobs, to me it just doesn’t make economic sense.
I’m talking strictly out of my own opinion, and have no research to back it up.
Something we cannot predict with any reliable accuracy.
I will, however, still scratch my own balls; maybe.
If all current goods and services could be provided for free, I guess one possibility is we’d all have everything we (currently) want and never have to work again.
But based on past performance I think it is much likely we will all collectively discover entirely new classes of goods and services we simply must have, and that we will continue to work just as hard for in the entirely new jobs that go into making them.
We’ll find out together…it will be a gradual transition. It has already started hiring freezes at a number of companies and over time it will cause negative job growth. It will also allow the extremely wealthy to accumulate vastly higher rates of wealth growth. So it all depends on what the extremely wealthy people do with their wealth, or whether or not governments tax that wealth to redistribute it.
It will not be a one size fits all scenario for each country or jurisdiction. When we get to the point of AI being able to replace 80% of jobs we will have a lot of soul searching to do.
Maybe politicians will also be AI.. they for sure would do a better job
Andrew Yang talked about this leading up to the 2016 election. He wanted UBI (universal basic income) paid for by taxing companies that replace employees with AI/robots/automation. At the time everyone laughed his ideas off, now in 2025 look how many jobs AI/robots/automation has taken and future jobs that are in Jeopardy of being replaced. The potential is literally limitless. No job is safe.
The democrats concentrations camps🏕️ are already in full swing in cities like san francisco,dc, etc. no wonder they call you bad words when you complain about those camps 👀
Isnt it obvious whats going to happen when jobs are automated? Once they don’t need us… the Rich will just make AI driven androids to hunt the poor.
In so far as AI is concerned, it still relies on us to maintain the power grid and and keep energy ramped up. Why do you think we’re hearing drill baby drill so much? Its what the AI demands, and we’re happy to oblige. Once AI doesn’t need us to go out and maintain energy grids and production anymore, we’re toast.
Mass unemployment certainly. End of capitalism? Hopefully but that requires people actually evolving beyond a truly childish mindset of “but why would they do that? That would hurt [x] people?” and I just don’t see that happening with Americans.
Most likely for China it elevates the lives of everyone.
In the US/West? It creates a near permanent class of impoverished laborers with the bourgeoisie becoming even richer.
Trump has been bragging about the billions of dollars his rich cronies are planning to spend to build up AI server farms in the US. But that doesn’t create jobs. It just uses a lot of energy to run a bunch of computers. This seems like a really bad idea but he keeps crowing about it. He thinks we are stupid.
Can’t be consumers without jobs , the time people realize that it will be to late
Expanse covered it well – jobless go on basic and pretty much just sleep walk through life on the absolute minimum. There’s a black market, and a lottery to escape to an education and vocation
Some kind of revolution, probably. In capitalism, wealth will be more and more concentrated. And a lot of people won’t be able to survive without working. So, people will be so poor that some kind of revolution to redistribute wealth will be unavoidable.
Unless they introduce UBI, you either adapt or go into obscurity. Simple as that. The world goes on.
There are two possibilities. It’s either Star Trek future where people will provided a basic income and we will move to a post scarcity society. Or we go the Elysium route where robots work to produce the goods that the wealthy want and everyone else is left to suffer in poverty. Personally I think we will see robots create mass unemployment which will reach a tipping point where the public unrest will force a transition to a basic income system. I think on the other side of that tunnel things will be pretty good with a very large improvement to the standard of living. But that particular tunnel doesn’t have lights installed so best be ready for some dark times before we get out the other side.
If machines make everything, then the machines will still have to be designed, built, transported, maintained, fueled, and repaired. If the machines do all that, then everything will be essentially free. Just like music is now, for example, since the cost to distribute it is so low.
If, somehow, someone owns the machines and tries to demand money for everything, and no one has a job or money, then people will work for themselves and each other and pay each other and have a human-based economy, as in, exactly what we have now, with the machine-based stuff off somewhere else not being used in any significant amounts.
Better just get money by any means necessary now. Hustle, and work as much as you can. Save and invest. Pool money with friends and invest in vacation rental condos and bungalows. Do anything except mindless consumerism with your earnings so that you can set a foundation of security in the event of economic instability. Get a cheapest plot of flat land that has well water and hold on to it until you need to park a trailer on it or to pass it on to your children.
Instead of trying to predict what the greedy powers that be will do in an AI economic catastrophe is probably best to use what time is left to shift into a balls to the wall wealth building mode. Worst case you have a safety net, best case you retire early
First, there will be riots in highly populated centers. Since poverty will increase, so will the systematic spread of pathogens. At least one major outbreak will rise to pandemic proportions. The result will a massive decline in the general population of peasants, serfs and other lower castes. The rich, and those few commoners necessary to provide their support, will be protected and immune.
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I have absolutely know idea what I am talking about. The above is just one of my many fever dreams that lately I experience while reading OP’s post.
Spoiler alert. Machines reduced the need for a large human workforce a long time ago.
We are already living in a society chock full of useless jobs.
The only way out is to hand out free money to the entire population. Give people the ability to buy what firms can produce while allowing more freedom from work.
But economists don’t get it yet and ordinary people are too bashful to ask for it. There is a pervasive, unfounded belief in our society that income has to be “earned.”
I dont believe it will happens until a few decades. Specialty jobs are… special?
My job cant be done by a robot, I can be helped but done entirely by AI ? Nope
I have yet to see convincing programming from a publicly available ai model. They spit out aggregate 90% accurate syntax for basic code applications. Any complex code fails miserably. The coding ai claims are all hype.
Hopefully we have a lot of free time to enjoy all the art created by AI/Robotics.
Unfortunately history shows that disruption like this in the value of work is not really great for the masses.
No jobs means no consumers. Without consumers, who’s spending money on AI assisted or produced.. anything?
what will happen is downsizing, that’s what will happen, in the time honored tradition of the bean counters balancing the equation. When i talk of downsizing we are talking about the surplus in human resources, that number will be reduced. i wont tell you how that process is done, you folks are smart, figure it out. At least it will be efficient and orderly process, we will admire it for it effectiveness and fear it at the same time.
Perhaps there will be large industrial automated factories, where 100’s of thousands of people funnel in to the front door of this factory, and 55 gallon drums come out the other side, from an outside observers point of view it will looks wired, all those people entering and nobody coming out, just truck loads of stainless steel 55 gallon drums of slurry, this observer knows because one fell of the truck and the lid came off and slurry splashed all over the pavement. well, I paint an ugly picture, so you decide how that will be done where most everyone you know is no longer needed.
The better question is: what will happen until every job becomes automated?
Our political and economic structures are a systematisation of primate social status instincts. Therefore it contradicts human nature for all jobs to become automated.
The psychological motive for the rich who decide our economic and political structures is beig able to control other people. If nobody is being made to perform tasks in return for financial compensation, most of that control evporates.
That effect is already quite apparent, and has been for a hundred years. Plenty of the jobs we already have are entirely pointless from a practical point of view, but people still do them to flatter the monkey instincts of the rich.
Sure, many jobs which don’t sufficiently flatter those instincts will be done by machines, but there will still be jobs in which a richer person gets to treat a poorer person as beneath them.
It’s not as fun for them to treat a machine like a thing as it is to treat a human like a thing.
There will always be new jobs no-one predicted would exist
Why don’t we need millions and millions and millions of immigrants if AI and automation is going to replace the human worker almost completely in the next couple of decades?
What happens? Then zero people have enough money to buy the crap AI is creating then the companies go bankrupt. Typical economics… A town where the only industry is working in a mine or supporting the mine workers. The mine closes down, town goes under, shops close.
The only place I see AI being amazing is farming. Using AI and robots to increase yield just means more food harvested with less chemicals. If a robot can cull the weeds we don’t need spray. Then comes transportation of the farm goods. If we have robots able to drive 24/7 then food reaches cities in a more fresh state reducing the need for more spray and preservation. But what about the farm jobs? No one should be breaking their back for terrible wages, while burning in the sun or freezing in the winter..
The rich will have their society walked in. Some of the poor will be used as security and as servants. The rest will gradually be left to fend for themselves as governments slowly disappear and corporations take over.
The robot army will be used to forcibly remove all resources from the remainder of the working class and we will be left to starve.
Manual labour/construction work will be available for many many years…. corporate people (like me) are going to need to learn some manual skills…
What will happen now that the earth is overpopulated?
Will we stop fucking?
Sorry, to phrase it so very crass but my point is that just because it would make the most logical sense, it goes against our human nature.
Capitalism is rooted in the idea that one is worth more than the other. Even if labor would cease to exist, humanity would quickly find another way differentiate between the upper and the lower.
We’re all just apes with iPhones in the end…
Could you please suggest me any AI or LLM to perform my western blot.