Als ich den Stromanbieter wechselte, waren fast alle Angebote für Ökostrom. Beim Laden meines Autos verwende ich Ökostrom. Wenn ich die Webseite eines Unternehmens öffne, nutzen sie Ökostrom. Wenn ich jedoch hinschaue https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE/72h/hourly Es scheint, dass mehr als die Hälfte des Stroms aus Kohle und Gas stammt. Was passiert mit Strom aus fossilen Brennstoffen, wenn alle Ökostrom nutzen?

    Who is using “dirty” electricity
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    1. Komandakeen on

      Did you look exactly what that Ökostrom is? This is not a trademark, they can sell you everything as Ökostrom. Also, industry doesn’t care, they want the cheapest…

    2. Ökostrom providers do not guarantee that you will only get green electricity. They simply have to ensure that green electricity is produced somewhere (not necessarily in Germany; often in Norway or Austria). This does not necessarily mean that new renewable energy sources are funded. It may also be that the green electricity is already being produced anyway, they are now simply buying it.

      There are a few suppliers who are actively promoting renewable energy, as you would expect.

      More details can be found here (unfortunately only in German): [https://www.verbraucherzentrale.de/wissen/energie/preise-tarife-anbieterwechsel/ist-ein-tarif-mit-oekostrom-und-oekogas-ueberhaupt-sinnvoll-8207](https://www.verbraucherzentrale.de/wissen/energie/preise-tarife-anbieterwechsel/ist-ein-tarif-mit-oekostrom-und-oekogas-ueberhaupt-sinnvoll-8207)

    3. pizzamann2472 on

      1. You look at vendors for private homes. Only around 1/4 of electricity in Germany is used by private homes. Most electricity goes to industry and commercial applications.

      2. Ökostrom does not always mean that you are indeed using clean energy. Some vendors sell „Ökostrom“, but are actually buying their electricity from dirty sources. They then invest some money into „green projects“ that supposedly save CO2 emissions somewhere else in the world and claim that your electricity produced net zero emissions.

    4. specialsymbol on

      First, most „Ökostrom“ is so called labeled Ökostrom. It’s basically not, you just pay for them to buy certificates from Norway. Now they use coal energy – on paper. Joke’s on us.

      Second, most people don’t get „Ökostrom“ contracts. Regular energy is still *sold as* cheaper and the vast majority goes for cheap.

    5. BearOne0889 on

      1) To clear up some misconceptions: You don’t actually use „clean/green“ electricity, you just pay for it and it’s balanced out – a bit similar how fairtrade juices and stuff don’t have to actually what’s in the jug, it’s just accounted. And that’s only if you are with one of the few real renewable electricity providers (I believe Lichtblick and Naturstrom e.g.).

      Having said that:
      2) Many people just go to check24 or something like that and get what’s the cheapest offer. Many (probably many more) just stay with their (local) provider and whatever they offer.

      3) if you are interested, just search the „Strommix“ of any provider, e.g. your local Stadtwerke. They will have charts with „their“ electricity mix available online. E.g. https://sw-i.de/blog/news/strommix-das-steckt-in-ihrem-strom/

      4) Industrial electricity is a another, different thing.

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