Sollte ich zuerst einen Elektriker beauftragen, um eine zweite Meinung einzuholen? Soll ich meinen Hausmeister/Vermieter kontaktieren? Welche Pflichten haben sie?
Also gingen wir heute zu IKEA, um unsere Küche zu planen, und sie sagten uns, die elektrischen Anschlüsse in der Wohnung seien unsicher und nicht ausreichend.
Wir haben nur einen Stromsicherungsanschluss für die gesamte Küche und das Wohnzimmer zusammen. Sie sagten, es sei unsicher und sie könnten weder die Waschmaschine noch den Backofen, den Induktionsherd oder die Spülmaschine anschließen. Es wäre nicht sicher genug und sie werden es nicht riskieren. Die gleichzeitige Verwendung von zwei Geräten könnte zu einem Kurzschluss führen und alle unsere Geräte zerstören.
Sie meinten, es solle mehr individuelle Sicherungsoptionen geben. Mindestens 1 für die Küche und 1 für das Wohnzimmer. Zusätzlich getrennte Sicherungen für die Waschmaschine und den Geschirrspüler. Außerdem gibt es nicht genügend Anschlüsse für unseren Ofen und den Herd: Es sind nur 2, obwohl es 3 sein sollten.
Sie empfehlen, die elektrischen Anschlüsse der Wohnung zu ändern. Andernfalls wird nichts installiert. Dies ist, wie Sie vielleicht verstehen, äußerst wichtig. Wir können die Wohnung nicht ohne Küche oder Waschmaschine beziehen, wir zahlen all diese Monate umsonst Miete. Der Stromanschluss sollte den üblichen Wohnverhältnissen entsprechen.
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Von bonjourtheodore
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Well, the oven and cooker has a separate set of fuses, although it’s also weird that those are only two, I think typically it should be three.
Could the washing mashine maybe be put in the bathroom? Then it could suffice (assuming that those fuses and the wiring can do the typical 16A).
The Hausmeister is the janitor working for your landlord. They don’t have the authority to make decisions, and most likely they are not qualified to do work like that, unless the house owners hired an actual electrician.
This is a major defect with your flat, and therefore your landlord’s responsibility. Contact them about it – and I expect you might need help from the Mieterbund to get anywhere on this.
While this is not particularly impressive, it should work just fine.
1. Herd has separate fuses (and most can of these still be connected to 2 phases. Should be fine for oven and induction cooker, might limit the max power).
2. If you have no electrical heating or water boiler, one fuse for the rest of kitchen and living room should be sufficient. You have 3680W total, and dishwasher, washing machine, fridge etc. can run in parallel there without the lights or TV overloading it.
If you have an old plasma TV and an old vacuum cleaner or if you connect an electric grill, you’ll probably trip the fuse though. But put LED bulbs everywhere, use a normal TV and don’t run high power appliances (grill, water heater, coffee maker, vacuum cleaner) while both dishwasher and washing machine are running and you should be fine. Inconvenient, but not a major issue.
The wiring in your apartment is not „unsafe“ it was just never planned to run so many electric devices at once. Having the washing machine in the kitchen was never really a thing in Germany.
Today the standard is to have more fuses with separate wires for things like dishwasher, but old wiring is still „ok“ if it was fit to the standard at the time.
Talk to your landlord. They would have to hire an electrician to upgrade things which could be very costly (running totally new wires, etc). It’s not possible to just add fuses. As the wiring is up to code this would most likely be for you to pay yourself.
The people at IKEA are wrong also. You can easily put the dishwasher and washing machine on one circuit. They go or even work at the same time unless they really overload the circuit. If they overload it the fuse cuts off power to protect the circuit and the devices absolutely need to handle this without damage (it’s like pulling the plug).
They told you BS.
Ideally there are individual breakers for all appliances to avoid having one faulty appliance turn your entire apartment dark.
But that’s not needed.
You have two fuses for the oven/stove top.
And one fuse for the normal outlets that’s shared between the kitchen and living room.
But neither rooms should draw much that it becomes a problem.
The largest consumer next to the oven/stove top are the dishwasher and an electric kettle.
The kettle runs for less than a minute usually before it’s done and the dishwasher runs longer but doesn’t heat the water through it entire runtime.
So you are 90% completely fine.
And in case the breaker does trip that also okay because that’s his job to protect the wires in the wall from over current.
If that happens just don’t use both appliances in the future together.
Your appliances aren’t protected by the breakers in your fuse box that’s a common misconception, the breakers are solely there to protect the wires and outlets.
Devices have their own internal fuses.
And when the breaker trips you appliances will be fine, the worst thing might be having to press the reset button on the dishwasher and start the current wash anew.
My guess is the ones who told you that just wanted to get back home and lied to you.