Italiens Geburtenratenkrise ist „unumkehrbar“, sagen Experten
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/01/13/zero-babies-born-in-358-italian-towns-amid-birth-crisis/
Italiens Geburtenratenkrise ist „unumkehrbar“, sagen Experten
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/01/13/zero-babies-born-in-358-italian-towns-amid-birth-crisis/
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ss: Italy’s demographic decline has been evident for at least a decade. “In 2014, the country entered a new phase of inexorable population decline,” Mr Rosina told La Repubblica newspaper.
It is not just that Italian couples are having fewer babies – many would like to leave the country altogether.
More than a third of Italy’s teenagers dream of emigrating as soon as they are old enough to do so, with the most favoured destination being the US (32 per cent), followed by Spain (12 per cent) and the UK (11 per cent), according to Istat.
Italy has one of the oldest and most sharply declining populations in the world.
Italy is going to look like Nigeria if they don’t stop the endless illegal migration. It would destroy the country forever.
Downvotes don’t change reality.
Wants to reduce carbon emissions but needs more breeders to support the social programs and monetary systems dependent on perpetual economic „growth“ and a large workforce under them to sustain themselves.
Quite a dilemma for them. We can’t just keep doubling the human population every 50 years to support pyramid scheme debt based fractional reserve monetary systems and social programs designed to sustain themselves with a large working force beneath them to pay for them. Absent new workers you will get inflation to pay for these social programs as new money is created into existence and handed out for people to basically do nothing.
They don’t want people to save and spend less because they need economic activity to maintain liquidity in the system so products are designed with planned obsolescence with a culture designed to get people to replace old stuff with new stuff all the time and basically constantly spend every cent they have and consume in a hamster wheel mentality. How do we reduce carbon emissions that way?
Then let it die its own death. Do not bring in imports and call them italian. Just dont‘. As long as we do not attack each other, countries really don’t need big armies anymore. Let them be and see how it goes.
Many young people don’t like living in a country ran by Benito Moussolini’s granddaughter?! I’m shocked /s
Edit: thought she was prime minister and she’s not. She is however in parliament.
Right…’experts‘. Who’s paying them to push the agenda?
I feel like all I see on my feed currently is about birth rates.
Not denying it could be a problem, but maybe 10-15 years ago „global overpopulation“ was all the rage, with similar alarming headlines.
Just feels like another agenda being pushed.
“Why do all the young people want to move away? Can’t be poor employment prospects and high cost of living. Must be irreversible!”
European Redditors are constantly telling me how awful the US is so why do young people in Italy want to immigrate here ? Honest question.
Fucking hell. Another one of these doomsaying posts.
It’s ok for populations to increase and decrease! The world isn’t going to implode people.
The Italian peninsula during the height of the Roman Empire had tens of millions fewer people than today, and we all think about that once a week. Also today we have advanced technology and praxis to aid us if there are any true labor shortages.
Loss of children born is controlled almost exclusively by education duration once you run multivariate analysis and remove confounding factors like healthcare access, GDP, religion, etc.
All the groups that live in developed countries with high birthrates are those that live odd religiously motivated subcultures that avoid traditional education entirely or pursue religious education. The Amish, Orthodox Jews in Israel, Mormon communes (though since they’ve modernized and reached more acceptance, their birthrates have been dropping) all have 6+ children born per woman, despite being in the center of the richest areas of their sphere of the world, having prophylactic access, and being generally very poor compared to other groups.
It’s not even a hard cutoff either, its a continuous line downwards as you increase the number of years spent in education. African countries average around 6 and have high birthrates, South Korea has the highest average population education (>12, with 99% of students taking at least one year of some kind of advanced education after high school), and has the worst birthrate.
So the easy answer would be to just make sure education is done by 14-16, and only allow further education once people are in their mid 20s and have already started a family.
A) every country finds that declining birth rates are perniciously hard to adjust even in totalitarian states and often even ‘successful’ measures have intensely bad side effects for a very long time.
B) Italy is famous for an unusual level of corruption and mismanagement by first world standards. Like the US for at least the past 40 years they also suffer from apathetic and often morbidly incompetent voters and systems. Unlike the US, their economy sucks and will not bail them out.
C) Italy is screwed.
Thanks for coming to my TED talks.
Reason being it’s hard to find good jobs in Italy that isn’t passed down by family. Everything requires a license that’s usually passed by family so why have children if they have no future.