Meine Frau hat das gestern im Briefkasten bekommen. Sie hat überhaupt kein DE-49-Euro-Ticket gekauft oder abonniert, muss aber trotzdem bezahlen, und das sogar mit einer Klage. Ich war sprachlos und verwirrt. Ist das ein Betrug? Was ist mit der DB los? Ich habe ihnen bereits einige Mails geschickt und muss jetzt warten, aber es ist Wochenende.

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    2. Ask for detailed information of the claim. They have to inform you.

      Might well be that someone got themselves a BahnCard in your name…

    3. CollectionNo4046 on

      According to their website the IBAN does not match „Unsere Bankverbindung hat sich geändert:

      Kontoinhaber: UNIVERSUM Inkasso GmbH
      IBAN: DE49 5004 0000 0583 4726 00
      BIC: COBADEFFXXX“ even though it’s the same bank. I also miss information about the original claim and information about how the total amount is calculated.

      Call Universum and ask for verification and all details about the Deutsche Bahn claim and then call Deutsche Bahn and ask them what this is all about.

    4. Call the phone number and find out about Abo-Nummer mentioned on the second page. Universum might point you to the DB-Aboservice, which might be painfull to reach and communicate with, but you do not have another option (maybe hiring and paying for a lawyer would be an alternative, but you might not be too eager to spend money on that). There are plenty of traps in the public transit space making you ending up in a subscription without noticing it.

      Once you’re 100% sure, you weren’t involved, you should reach out to the police and file a case on identity theft (and maybe fraud) and communicate that to Universum. This will not resolve the issue for you immediately (it’ll be slow and painful as well) but that’s the best option you have.

    5. Repulsive_Couple1735 on

      I already saw that someone posted here similar situation/problem.

    6. rookie-schneidi on

      I received the same letter and immediately wrote an e-mail to DB.

      Waiting for the answer.

    7. veryjuicyfruit on

      This looks like 2 monts of Deutschlandticket + Inkasso fees.

      Sadly i know those letters.

      DB stopped charging money from my bank account at some point, wrote one single email that i owe them money, 6 months later recieved the inkasso letter.

      The „Abo-Auftragsnummer“ did match to my Deutschlandticket Abo in my DB account and i could reconstruct the fact that they stopped charging me.

      I was really mad, believe me.

    8. mountainaftermountn on

      A couple of things look a bit dodgy. It says „Forderung aus Werkvertrag“ on the first page, which means that it’s supposedly based on an invoice for a contract for services rendered. Then the DB Vertrieb GmbH is headquartered in Frankfurt, not Kassel. The Oberlandesgericht Frankfurt am Main has a 60313 and not a 60256 postal code … but these could be clerical errors. But If the contract was supposedly made on 10 March, an inkasso letter from 10 April is definitely too early. I would call DB, as has been suggested, and write a letter, by registered mail, saying that the underlying contract does not exist (if that’s the case).

    9. thatdudewayoverthere on

      You said that she at one point had an Abo

      Did she cancel everything correctly and if so does she still have the cancellation confirmation from DB or anything similar?

      Or did she just stop paying?

    10. The phrasing of some parts of the letter is totally dodgy, very likely it’s a scam.

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