I meant if it had ever happend *in recorded history*, sorry
HAL9001-96 on
given how many there are, its statistically prettymuch inevitbale that some of htem went between us and the usn at some point
given how small they are they wouldn’t fully cover it though unless they#re literally in out atmosphere
SungrazerComets on
tldr; yes but no but yes, kinda.
The answer is certainly „yes“, but with caveats. Usually when we talk of something „eclipsing“ something else, the ‚eclipser‘ is larger (or at least roughly the same apparent size) as the ‚eclipsee‘. With respect to comets, that’ll never* happen because even the largest comet nucleii are a few tens of kilometers diameter, and the Sun is substantially larger than that!
(*OK, an e.g. 10km comet nucleus inside Earth’s atmosphere could indeed eclipse the Sun entirely, but we’d have a different set of concerns beyond „ooh pretty!“)
But have comet nuclei passed between the Sun and the Earth? Sure! SOHO has discovered over 5,000 tiny sungrazing comets, many of which have passed in front of the Sun as they vaporize. [Here’s a good example.](https://earthsky.org/space/first-ever-movie-of-comets-death-plunge-into-sun/) But that’s only visible from space.
Another way to look at OPs question – and probably the spirit in which it was meant – is to ask whether a comet just like the one in the SOHO images today has ever crossed in front of the Sun (in reliably recorded history). Because for sure, the apparent size of that thing’s tail is WAY larger than the apparent size of the Sun (the white circle in the middle).
From SOHO’s perspective the answer is „no“, but with yet another a caveat. Just last October, a different Comet ATLAS (Tsuchinshan-ATLAS) passed through this camera, and its extended dust trail did indeed „eclipse“ the Sun. [NASA put together a really nice video about it here.](https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/14706/#media_group_376570) That was particularly cool because we got to look right along the dust plane of the comet trail (go watch that video). But the dust was far too diffuse for us to notice any dimming or whatever from the Sun.
Also, you shouldn’t confuse the apparent size of a comet nucleus (e.g. as shown in OP’s SOHO image) with the *actual* size of the comet viewed with the solar disk as a backdrop. There’s just no comparison. [This image [JAXA Hinode mission]](https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/hinode_sot_comet_20111216_000542-864×512-1.jpg) of a sungrazing comet (lower-left corner) in 2011 puts some context on this, and even then the comet size is somewhat exaggerated.
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This looks like a fucking killer dub techno album cover, that’s for sure.
MaybeTheDoctor on
They would either have to be very very large, or very very close to earth to actually eclipse the sun.
snailtap on
Tons of asteroids have transited the sun yes, but they’d have to be a perfect size and position to completely eclipse the sun from our vantage point
oscubed on
Let’s put it this way. If a comet is fully eclipsing the sun (given the average size of comets) as opposed to just passing in front of it, it’s probably going to be an extinction event 🙂 Running won’t help at that point.
DesperateRoll9903 on
I think the tail of the last big comet (C/2023 A3) did move in front of the sun. See end of the video by ESA:
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I meant if it had ever happend *in recorded history*, sorry
given how many there are, its statistically prettymuch inevitbale that some of htem went between us and the usn at some point
given how small they are they wouldn’t fully cover it though unless they#re literally in out atmosphere
tldr; yes but no but yes, kinda.
The answer is certainly „yes“, but with caveats. Usually when we talk of something „eclipsing“ something else, the ‚eclipser‘ is larger (or at least roughly the same apparent size) as the ‚eclipsee‘. With respect to comets, that’ll never* happen because even the largest comet nucleii are a few tens of kilometers diameter, and the Sun is substantially larger than that!
(*OK, an e.g. 10km comet nucleus inside Earth’s atmosphere could indeed eclipse the Sun entirely, but we’d have a different set of concerns beyond „ooh pretty!“)
But have comet nuclei passed between the Sun and the Earth? Sure! SOHO has discovered over 5,000 tiny sungrazing comets, many of which have passed in front of the Sun as they vaporize. [Here’s a good example.](https://earthsky.org/space/first-ever-movie-of-comets-death-plunge-into-sun/) But that’s only visible from space.
Another way to look at OPs question – and probably the spirit in which it was meant – is to ask whether a comet just like the one in the SOHO images today has ever crossed in front of the Sun (in reliably recorded history). Because for sure, the apparent size of that thing’s tail is WAY larger than the apparent size of the Sun (the white circle in the middle).
From SOHO’s perspective the answer is „no“, but with yet another a caveat. Just last October, a different Comet ATLAS (Tsuchinshan-ATLAS) passed through this camera, and its extended dust trail did indeed „eclipse“ the Sun. [NASA put together a really nice video about it here.](https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/14706/#media_group_376570) That was particularly cool because we got to look right along the dust plane of the comet trail (go watch that video). But the dust was far too diffuse for us to notice any dimming or whatever from the Sun.
Also, you shouldn’t confuse the apparent size of a comet nucleus (e.g. as shown in OP’s SOHO image) with the *actual* size of the comet viewed with the solar disk as a backdrop. There’s just no comparison. [This image [JAXA Hinode mission]](https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/hinode_sot_comet_20111216_000542-864×512-1.jpg) of a sungrazing comet (lower-left corner) in 2011 puts some context on this, and even then the comet size is somewhat exaggerated.
This looks like a fucking killer dub techno album cover, that’s for sure.
They would either have to be very very large, or very very close to earth to actually eclipse the sun.
Tons of asteroids have transited the sun yes, but they’d have to be a perfect size and position to completely eclipse the sun from our vantage point
Let’s put it this way. If a comet is fully eclipsing the sun (given the average size of comets) as opposed to just passing in front of it, it’s probably going to be an extinction event 🙂 Running won’t help at that point.
I think the tail of the last big comet (C/2023 A3) did move in front of the sun. See end of the video by ESA:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTrvT5ozj6k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTrvT5ozj6k) (length is 0:29)
In the [orbital diagram in wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2023_A3_(Tsuchinshan%E2%80%93ATLAS)#Orbit) you can see that the comet did move between earth and the sun, so it was in front of the sun and not behind it.