Ilham Aliyev: Wir glauben, dass die Organisation Türkischer Staaten aufgrund ihrer Geographie, der menschlichen und natürlichen Ressourcen sowie unserer Einheit zu einem ernstzunehmenden Machtzentrum auf globaler Ebene werden kann
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Von GreenShen98
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Tbh it’s long overdue. We need to band together in an economic, social and military sense. It’s the only way forward in an increasingly dangerous world.
Some online users keep bringing up the EU example, but border and immigration controls being totally dropped between Azerbaijan and other countries would be a bad decision. Millions of Kurds, Blacks, Afghans, Arabs, etc. from Turkey alone for example would outnumber Azerbaijanis, not to mention their significant cultural and religious/sectarian differences. It would benefit only the exploiters of cheap labor while mainstream quality of life and every other socio-economic indicator score would deteroriate.
There can be some things like a customs union (which Turks already have with the EU), trade in local currencies, other economic cooperation etc. without jeopardizing Azerbaijani security and demographics, which is probably what Aliyev has in mind. But with regard to some of the fantasies I see shared online, mostly by guys from outside AZE and the former USSR, no thank you. It’s called the Organization of Turkic States (emphasis on states, plural) for a reason.
Turkic states have always been fighting each other. Good luck uniting them.
Also, almost all Turkic states still behave like they are living in 15th century (nepotism, bad education, dictators, too traditional and conservative, lack of human rights).
I do not want Turkic states united together, unless these things change.
On one hand I would love it to be like the EU on the other hand I’m absolutely scared of it because of Türkiye. Literally only catastrophically colossal weak link in regards to that. Maybe like free movement for all but Turkish citizens. Because my god with current migration policies they have I don’t want to think what will happen to the rest of the organization once border-free crossing is enabled.
If Turkey learns to protect their namus(hudud) , why not?
Greater Turan
To be strong in terms of human resources, one must treat these resources humanely, as people, and respect their rights first and foremost. This is essential for developing human resources into human capital. However, in none of the Turkic-speaking or Turkic countries are there human rights or freedoms. Therefore, you can dream, but under such dictators, you will never become a truly serious force.
Sən ilk öz millətinə adam kimi adama bahan kimi bah və dəvran, sən və nəsilin haqqına qirmə, sonra həyəl et Türk Devlətlərin gücündən, bütün dediyiniz birlik Erdoğanla birlikdə öz ölkələrinizin sərvətini öz nəslinizə yedizdirmək və birlikdə eyni banklarda o pulları toplamağdı sızın birlik
I think the Turkic states could create its own version of EU. Plus, due to similarities in languages, the Turkic „Esperanto“ could also become a thing, to make it easier for anyone from those countries to freely understand each other.
Though a military coalition would be impossible, since Turkey is in NATO. And China wouldn’t want any new military coalitions right at their doorstep (Kazakhstan/Kyrgyzstan).
RuZZia can’t do jack shit, but would still try to shit over any attempts to that.
Turkic union could be a thing if
A) Uzbekistan could grow to 50 mln population
B) Kazakhstan populated itself with Tatars/Chuvashs/Uygurs boosting population to 50 million
C) South Azerbaijan is unified with North Azerbaijan creating 35 mln country plus creating lans route between Azerbaijan and Turkey
D) Mazandaran is joined to Azerbaijan or Turkmenia creating direct land route between Turkey/Azerbaijan and central Asia
As a result 250 mln union is created with a nominal GDP of 5 trln USD and PPP GDP of 10 trln USD
If that happens, Turkic Union turns into second tier (after US, EU, China) global power and could really be independent and protect its interests effectively.
However, this plan is not realizable since its conditions will almost never happen
A) collapse of Iran
B) democratization of countries and steep reforms in Turkic countriea
C) non- interference of China and Russia while this union is being built
This comments section gave me cancer💀