Hallo zusammen,
Ich bin kürzlich in ein großes Gebäude (Massivgebäude) mit 15 Stockwerken umgezogen und muss eine Bohrmaschine kaufen, die hauptsächlich zum Bohren in Betonwände geeignet ist.
Ich habe einige Angebote von Bosch mit Hammerfunktion (Schlagbohrmaschine) gefunden, war mir aber nicht sicher, ob diese gut genug sind, um tatsächlich in Betonwände zu bohren.
Das Gebäude hat eine recht gute Bauqualität (ich glaube, eine gute Mischung aus Beton und Stahlstangen)
Dank im Voraus!
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Von Indmentalist
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Correction: I have one from PARKSIDE in picture above but doesn’t work well beyond non concrete walls & wood.
For drilling a few small holes to hang easy things a „Schlagbohrschrauber“ is ok, not really good but doable.
For bigger work, more holes, etc into solid concrete you want a „Bohrhammer“.
The difference is, that the „Schlagbohrschrauber“ just shakes the drill a bit, not providing any real power. You have to do this by force, which is neither pleasant, efficient or good for longevity of the drill.
A „Bohrhammer“ actively hammers the drillbit, and does the work. It’s made to do this for more than 5 minutes at a time.
Might be worth renting a proper one at a hardware store, instead of buying a cheap one.
Sounds like you‘d need it just for the First Installation or do you Need it more often? Would recommend Check for Baumarkt where you can Rent a machine. Mostly These are high end in my Experience.
You need a Bohrhammer
If you are tight on budget you can use this https://www.lidl.de/p/parkside-bohr-und-meisselhammer-pbh-1550-c1-mit-meissel-und-bohrerset/p100375643?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=sho-sea_pmax_base-all_notset_ao_shop_nf_sl_ao_p-google&utm_content=&utm_term=&cid=20338350399&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAu8W6BhC-ARIsACEQoDAprJ0tgwugWqB1pU4II2ZXw_1TALKk0YWBKRlXFF3ipHSmhxZ6ZoIaAoIlEALw_wcB
Sometimes you can get free shipping and ometimea this thing is online for 50euros.
If you want something to give to your kid in 50 years, take this. https://www.bueromarkt-ag.de/bohrhammer_bosch_gbh_2-28_f_professional_sds_plus_,p-0611267600,l-google-css,pd-b2c.html?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAu8W6BhC-ARIsACEQoDDXAs33_7zD8fydKYGBvN9qsHiY3xtXnQZZFAsnMleY5uzZjs5KRjYaAiuoEALw_wcB
You should not buy anything in between.
And no battery, for your own sanity.
I highly recommend buying one with a cable, these battery powered ones are only good for a few years before the battery goes bad and replacement batteries won’t be available by then. The ones with a cable will outlast you and your children.
For concrete, you would need a „Bohrhammer“. They use different bits (not just regular drill bits), with a bit holding mechanism (SDS) that can actually deliver the impact.
Still, ask your landlord whether you can drill into concrete, and whether you can do it by yourself (instead of calling a professional service).
PKHAP 20-Li
Concrete is hard and difficult. But pneumatic rotary hammer that will go though concrete almost like through butter. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING SMALLER, not worth your effort.
Get a „Bohrhammer“, a pneumatic drill. Less noisy and far more powerful.
For concrete walls you want a proper drill hammer (Bohrhammer) with a sds chuck. A [solid corded machine](https://www.amazon.de/Bosch-Professional-Zusatzhandgriff-Tiefenanschlag-Handwerkerkoffer/dp/B08X6SVRRC/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=1UBX43MT8V6D7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.XNIrFvCMW5M4GRnPpmdJdF5Ay_nocT_CV5BgQUET_QixEl-wm6sYnHKViR2jiv3WpwXWLfZd436Ph8IakFaS2y12CimwlKi0OTLvuT5AbeeBtSSLHTxB48IEWEG_FeRmuoPTALM9l7WvFMwIq-98oNao5LpaGWFm1SuE8JnozcglyB9vxR5PaTEuS4j-lmc1QTlXuwHUJpByOp-DsoD5ooFO_8RsbvSHmHDFVvIxKVw.qioXO3d7jiOyAeOz9KkL77xIsQX6krBaL3RJvUJZldA&dib_tag=se&keywords=bohrhammer&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1733409644&sprefix=bohrhamme%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-3&th=1) will be a bit cheaper because [a cordless one](https://www.lidl.de/p/parkside-performance-20-v-akku-kombihammer-pkhap-20-li-d4-ohne-akku-und-ladegeraet/p100374358) needs you to get a battery and a charger if you don’t have on from that system yet.