How I did it: going back to 1976 using the UN simulation than going to Free simulation and putting the fertility rate for each year since 1976 and since the site does not add immigration data when doing free simulation it changes the population only based on births (which I know has immigrant births included but it is the closest I can get)
Why 1976? : It is when the fertility rate (number of births/woman) of spain started decreasing
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Lemme just snap a pic of this real quick
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No_Challenge6997 on
It is indeed a strong point against zero immigration politics, however, this may not be a truthful forecast as there could be policies put in place to promote birth rate and have better demographics, right?
Captain_cascon on
I would be a much better place, don’t sell your peace for money for greedy corporations.
Unrestricted immigration only benefits corporations that want cheap labour.
ConcernedCorrection on
Zero immigration is the slowest but most permanent way to make the economy collapse
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Suspicious-Summer-20 on
You know that eternal growth is not possible right?
VoodooVedal on
How is there like 5 different English speaking comments promoting racist bullshit within 10 minutes? What the fuck us happening to reddit?
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This is assuming it has no impact on birth rates. More demand for local workers and more empty houses+more building space= higher salaries, lower housing costs, and higher birthrates
I mean, people constantly blame tourists for high house prices, a population much smaller in number and that brings significantly more money per day spent here than the average immigrant
This is not an argument against immigration, just that the graph isn’t quite thought through
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Dont do ‚what ifs‘ and point them as scientific truths. Maybe with 11 M less people:
– Salaries would skyrocket
– Less competence for housing, smaller prices
– More cohesive society
– Less crime
People would be more happy and have more children. A ‚what if‘ as valid and false as yours.
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Spain would collapse in a few years if we had that policy.
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Saquen pollas y a comer coños
Primarch-Amaranth on
Well, how about enforcong legal bordes to only allow legal immigrants and redirect some funds from abortion (which is quite large, mind you) to support pregnancies, childbearing, and families with more than one child? You know, support people who want to have kids?
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Actual 2024 population: 48 million
Source: https://www.ined.fr/en/everything_about_population/population-games/tomorrow-population/
How I did it: going back to 1976 using the UN simulation than going to Free simulation and putting the fertility rate for each year since 1976 and since the site does not add immigration data when doing free simulation it changes the population only based on births (which I know has immigrant births included but it is the closest I can get)
Why 1976? : It is when the fertility rate (number of births/woman) of spain started decreasing
Lemme just snap a pic of this real quick
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It is indeed a strong point against zero immigration politics, however, this may not be a truthful forecast as there could be policies put in place to promote birth rate and have better demographics, right?
I would be a much better place, don’t sell your peace for money for greedy corporations.
Unrestricted immigration only benefits corporations that want cheap labour.
Zero immigration is the slowest but most permanent way to make the economy collapse
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You know that eternal growth is not possible right?
How is there like 5 different English speaking comments promoting racist bullshit within 10 minutes? What the fuck us happening to reddit?
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This is assuming it has no impact on birth rates. More demand for local workers and more empty houses+more building space= higher salaries, lower housing costs, and higher birthrates
I mean, people constantly blame tourists for high house prices, a population much smaller in number and that brings significantly more money per day spent here than the average immigrant
This is not an argument against immigration, just that the graph isn’t quite thought through
Dont do ‚what ifs‘ and point them as scientific truths. Maybe with 11 M less people:
– Salaries would skyrocket
– Less competence for housing, smaller prices
– More cohesive society
– Less crime
People would be more happy and have more children. A ‚what if‘ as valid and false as yours.
Spain would collapse in a few years if we had that policy.
Saquen pollas y a comer coños
Well, how about enforcong legal bordes to only allow legal immigrants and redirect some funds from abortion (which is quite large, mind you) to support pregnancies, childbearing, and families with more than one child? You know, support people who want to have kids?